You got it!  But hey, I was the same way back in the day but then it was red 
boxing and phone hacking.  (Ohio Bell made regular calls to my mother 
requesting her to have me take whatever it was off the line.  My nemesis at the 
phone company eventually became a good friend when I got older) If they're 
motivated they will rise to the challenge and when they do, my hats off to 
them!  At least they can get some GOOD experience from the effort, I hope 
anyway.

Bob-


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

Those kids will then install Ubuntu using Wubi (if they have admin
rights), have the back-door bios passwords somewhere, or start
charring around a HDD and screwdriver.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Robert West <[email protected]> wrote:
> Around here there are some kids with live linux on key drives they boot into
> to keep things private.  Set your boot order to not have USB or CD in the
> boot order and put an admin password on the bios.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:54 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
>
> Forgot to mention (like Victoria said) KeyLogger best I've found
> http://www.covenanteyes.com/ but it's not free. It can be put on a PC and
> the user never knows that its on there you just get an email as to what that
> pc did.  Still wont stop the Zune.
>
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
>
> Marlon, this is a topic that I speak on in local churches, Kiwanis, and
> such.  There are free apps like getk9.com that is completely free and locks
> down a PC's browsing. Then you can use user account controls in windows
> vista and Win7 to keep them from over-ridding your settings.  But none of
> them protect Zunes, iPad, PSP's.  You will need a account with OpenDNS and
> install that on your home routers DNS config to make it work right.  There
> are ways you can bypass this for your use.  But knowing the teacher you are
> on this list, I expect your son knows his way around network settings.  As
> the old sayings go where there is a will there is a way.
>
> I am considering setting up a OpenDNS Router and making it a option for my
> clients.  Routing all their traffic through it at their CPE.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:50 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having email
> addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having myspace,
> facebook etc. sites.
>
> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.
>
> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can
> delete things from.
>
> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might
> bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually forgetting the
> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.
>
> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail email
> address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I finally
> found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been
> saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got
>
> the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I didn't know
> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net and
>
> work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)
>
> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted
>
> information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had
> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden
> from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address.
>
> They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.  However
> they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!!  They had NO
> proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child was over
>
> 18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account
> information!  "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told.
>
> WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.
>
> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these
> days?
>
> thanks
> marlon
>
>
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