Marlon, thats right and this is a major issue with our society today - everyone is claiming to be watching out for our kids but nobody really is. "Do it for the kids" has been the social motto for years now but when you look at the things being done (or not) it makes your head swim. I'm not a lawyer, but I dont see any reason that ANY parent shouldnt have access to ANY and ALL information regarding their minor children who they are responsible for. Yet, there is a trend of "protecting" childrens rights trampling over the parent/child relationship. Marlon and all parents, you are wise to concerned. Nobody cares about your kids more than you. I'll go even further that never before has there been more evil towards our children than now. We need to call out these people who support this behavior.
<off soapbox> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]> wrote: > If YOU came to me about something your kid was doing on MY system *I* would > try to help you out as much as I could. > > But then again, I'm not a mega corp either. To me your kid is more valuable > than the money I'd loose by running off a few customers..... > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > > > My soon to be 4 and 7 yo boys have iMacs. They are locked down and > just do not know about that stuff yet. I removed > access to the web browser in the PSP cause the oldest found it. He > does not know how to use it (or so I think). The best > parents can do these days is be very proactive which you seam to be > trying to do. I do not know the legalities of monitoring > a kids device, i leave that up to parents and their lawyers. There are > key loggers for pretty much everything out there, VPN's > to make sure the data comes back to you first, and so on. Talk to your > lawyer. If your child has access to these services from > another location then I would assume access from there will or has > been used. Find out if so and who owns it, you might be > able to access much of that history from there. Also the great way > back machine and google cache can often have copies of > peoples pages. Talk with your lawyer. If I came to you and said your > site had given access to my minor, how would your advisers > tell you to respond? Likely to fluff me off as fast as possible to > avoid any liability. It could take a simple request from a letter > head to get them moving on it, or possibly real threat of legal > action. Did I mention, talk to your lawyer. S/He will be the best > source of information for correct surveilla^R^R parenting of digital > children. > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email >> addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, >> facebook etc. sites. >> >> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. >> >> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can >> delete things from. >> >> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that >> might >> bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting the >> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >> >> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email >> address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I finally >> found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd >> been >> saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I >> got >> the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't know >> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net >> and >> work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >> >> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the >> deleted >> information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had >> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden >> from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address. >> >> They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. However >> they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They had NO >> proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child was >> over >> 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account >> information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told. >> >> WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >> >> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids >> these >> days? >> >> thanks >> marlon >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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