I would love to see the amount of data that you move JUST in PPPoE session data? I had one customer doing this and after analysis of a single backhaul we figured 20% of the backhaul bandwidth was just session keepalives. Its not much, but you timed it by 200-300 customers 24/7, it adds up!
----------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use Eric, how many clients / tower sites / APs are you serving this way? Do you expect it to scale to double/triple your size now? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Muehleisen" <ericm...@gmail.com> To: <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use > We are primarily a PPPoE shop and run a bridged system for that reason. > Each AP has it's own VLAN bridged back to the core. We've done this for > many years without a single issue. > > We have different service offerings like VOIP, PPPoE, DHCP, PTPVPN and > even extend our metro ethernet across our wireless network. VLAN's work > great for this. > > -Eric > > On 4/14/2010 1:01 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: >> I didn't mean to sound short or rude with this last message. I mean no >> disrespect. I've been networking for 25 years... Novell servers, MS, IP >> networks, blah blah blah. >> >> It's just that I expected this response, but I want to INVITE other >> opinions. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Nash - Lists"<markl...@uwol.net> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use >> >> >> >>> Opinion #1. >>> >>> Anybody with large bridged systems? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz"<fai...@snappydsl.net> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use >>> >>> >>> >>>> ..... Route from Day One..... why pickup bad habits bridging ..... >>>> >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Faisal >>>> >>>> On 4/14/2010 1:27 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: >>>> >>>>> Routing vs. Bridging is an easy discussion... >>>>> >>>>> Bridge until you get a certain number of subs then route. 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