LOL. It's very minimal. If 20% of your BH is saturated with PPPoE broadcasts then you have something else to worry about. Typical non-unicast packet rates on an average AP is around 1 pps.
If anyone is interested in broadcast packet rates on a heavily utilized bridged network, let me know, offline. I have several Cacti graphs I can share. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:31 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > I would love to see the amount of data that you move JUST in PPPoE > session data? I had one customer doing this and after analysis of a > single backhaul we figured 20% of the backhaul bandwidth was just > session keepalives. Its not much, but you timed it by 200-300 customers > 24/7, it adds up! > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, > MTCTCE, MTCUME > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik& WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use > > Eric, how many clients / tower sites / APs are you serving this way? > > Do you expect it to scale to double/triple your size now? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Muehleisen"<ericm...@gmail.com> > To:<wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use > > > >> We are primarily a PPPoE shop and run a bridged system for that >> > reason. > >> Each AP has it's own VLAN bridged back to the core. We've done this >> > for > >> many years without a single issue. >> >> We have different service offerings like VOIP, PPPoE, DHCP, PTPVPN and >> even extend our metro ethernet across our wireless network. VLAN's >> > work > >> great for this. >> >> -Eric >> >> On 4/14/2010 1:01 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: >> >>> I didn't mean to sound short or rude with this last message. I mean >>> > no > >>> disrespect. I've been networking for 25 years... Novell servers, MS, >>> > IP > >>> networks, blah blah blah. >>> >>> It's just that I expected this response, but I want to INVITE other >>> opinions. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark Nash - Lists"<markl...@uwol.net> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Opinion #1. >>>> >>>> Anybody with large bridged systems? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz"<fai...@snappydsl.net> >>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ..... Route from Day One..... why pickup bad habits bridging ..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Faisal >>>>> >>>>> On 4/14/2010 1:27 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Routing vs. Bridging is an easy discussion... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bridge until you get a certain number of subs then route. Traffic >>>>>> isolation, minimize broadcast storms, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Route if you have multiple backhauls to a site. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I have heard of WISPs with thousands of subscribers >>>>>> > bridging > >>>>>> with >>>>>> VLANs to do traffic isolation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone care to share on this topic your experience either way? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm considering a change in our routing infrastructure. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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