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“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Frank Crawford <mogoo...@gmx.com> wrote: > Now there's a vision i could have lived with out. LOL > > Josh Luthman wrote: > > I like that idea way more then living comfortably. Sitting at home on > the > > couch naked eating Cheetos provides minimal benefit to society. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue > > that counts.” > > --- Winston Churchill > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Yes, it depends on what you put in. > >> > >> Remember that unemployment is generally what you put in, to a point. The > >> extensions that the feds put out are actually loans to your state that > get > >> paid back via unemployment taxes that you pay later. > >> > >> The system works as a basic safety net. I don't mind it.. I just sweat > when > >> I am on it. > >> > >> ryan > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Josh Luthman > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Unemployment is dependent on your previous job from what I understand. > >>> > >> He > >> > >>> was in the Marines. > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > >>> > >> continue > >> > >>> that counts.” > >>> --- Winston Churchill > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> How much is unemployment in OH? > >>>> > >>>> I max out here at 33% of my "normal" salary. I tell you I sweat and > >>>> > >> sweat > >> > >>>> trying to pick up my next gig. > >>>> > >>>> ryan > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> My roommate is on unemployment. How do you feel "it sucks"? > >>>>> > >>>>> He goes to school ~12 hours a week and gets paid more then I take for > >>>>> salary > >>>>> with tuition paid. > >>>>> > >>>>> Josh Luthman > >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>>> Suite 1337 > >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>>> > >>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > >>>>> > >>>> continue > >>>> > >>>>> that counts.” > >>>>> --- Winston Churchill > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> > >>>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>>> Obviously you have never been on unemployment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It sucks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ryan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < > >>>>>> > >> k...@wavelinc.com> > >> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> weeks.... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser > >>>>>>> WAVELINC > >>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 > >>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > >>>>>>> 419-562-6405 > >>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > >>>>>>> > >>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >>> > >>>>> On > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Behalf Of RickG > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM > >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was > >>>>>>> > >>>>> dated! > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you > >>>>>>> > >>> eat, > >>> > >>>>>>> have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What would my allowance be with no chores? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my > >>>>>>>> > >>>> money > >>>> > >>>>>>>> (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected > >>>>>>>> > >> (help > >> > >>>>>>>> cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both > >>>>>>>> > >> my > >> > >>>>>>>> parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn > >>>>>>>> > >>> food > >>> > >>>>> and > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> a bed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 4/19/10, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can I adopt you? :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> point > >>> > >>>>> of > >>>>> > >>>>>>> view. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> things). > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around > >>>>>>>>>> > >> them > >> > >>>>> more > >>>>> > >>>>>>> then > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> until > >>> > >>>> I > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> My > >>> > >>>>>> first > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> job > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> the > >>> > >>>>>> people > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> around me and the things I have. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> of > >>> > >>>>> them > >>>>> > >>>>>>> gets > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend > >>>>>>>>>> > >> I > >> > >>>> had > >>>> > >>>>> in > >>>>> > >>>>>>> high > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> life > >>> > >>>>>>> stands > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we > >>>>>>>>>> > >> hoped > >> > >>>> our > >>>> > >>>>>>> lives > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> would be at 23 or 24. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> providing > >>>> > >>>>>> you > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> my experiences, my results and my facts. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 > >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the > >>>>>>>>>> > >> courage > >> > >>> to > >>> > >>>>>>> continue > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> that counts.” > >>>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> disagree > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> mistakes, > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> are > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> may > >>> > >>>>> hurt > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> side > >> > >>> of > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Trust your kids and they will trust you back. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> courage > >>> > >>>>> to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> continue > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that counts.” > >>>>>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> pa...@hrec.coop > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> some > >> > >>>>>>> discussion > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop I was at recently. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> brand > >> > >>>> that > >>>> > >>>>>> was > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> intercept > >>>>> > >>>>>>> all > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sorts of things. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Paul > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> from > >>> > >>>>>> having > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> having > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> myspace, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facebook etc. sites. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *I* > >> > >>>> can > >>>> > >>>>>>> check > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> one > >>> > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> *I* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete things from. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> internet > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> might > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bite them in the butt later. The days of people > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> eventually > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgetting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a > >> > >>>>>> hotmail > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> address to get it. He had permission to use neither of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> them. > >>>> > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> finally > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> found out about the myspace account and went in to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> check > >> > >>>> out > >>>> > >>>>>> what > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he'd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying. His trash and sent messages had both been > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> erased > >> > >>>>>> between > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the password out of him and when I had time to check on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> it. > >>> > >>>>> (I > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> to > >> > >>>> get > >>>> > >>>>>> on > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> net > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for > >> > >>>> all > >>>> > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> deleted > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information. I explained that I was the father of a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> minor > >>> > >>>>> and > >>>>> > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> had > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> what > >> > >>>> was > >>>> > >>>>>>> being > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> as > >> > >>>> my > >>>> > >>>>>>> email > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> address. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were very good about contacting me quickly about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> this > >>> > >>>>>> issue. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> However > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they flatly refused to provide me with any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> information!!!!! > >>> > >>>>>> They > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> NO > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> that > >> > >>>> the > >>>> > >>>>>>> child > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> accessing > >>> > >>>>> the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information! "go get it from your teen" is basically > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> what > >>> > >>>> I > >>>> > >>>>>> was > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> told. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> control > >>> > >>>>>> your > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> days? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marlon > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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