I know significantly more people on unemployment that view it as an alternative to an honest job as opposed to a supplement until they get a new job.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Spott" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:05 AM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > Obviously you have never been on unemployment. > > It sucks. > > ryan > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 >> weeks.... >> Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids >> >> Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! >> Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, >> have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > What would my allowance be with no chores? >> > >> > Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money >> > (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. >> > >> > IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help >> > cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my >> > parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and >> > a bed. >> > >> > On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Can I adopt you? :) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of >> view. >> >>> >> >>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic >> >>> things). >> >>> >> >>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more >> then >> >>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I >> >>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My >> >>> first >> job >> >>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the >> >>> people >> >>> around me and the things I have. >> >>> >> >>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them >> gets >> >>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had in >> high >> >>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life >> stands >> >>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our >> lives >> >>> would be at 23 or 24. >> >>> >> >>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing >> >>> you >> >>> with >> >>> my experiences, my results and my facts. >> >>> >> >>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) >> >>> >> >>> Josh Luthman >> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>> Suite 1337 >> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>> >> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >> >>> that counts.” >> >>> --- Winston Churchill >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree >> >>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, >> >>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are >> >>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt >> >>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of >> >>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Josh Luthman >> >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>>> > 1100 Wayne St >> >>>> > Suite 1337 >> >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 >> >>>> > >> >>>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> >>>> continue >> >>>> > that counts.” >> >>>> > --- Winston Churchill >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < >> [email protected] >> >>>> >wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some >> discussion >> >>>> >> at >> >>>> a >> >>>> >> workshop I was at recently. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that >> >>>> >> was >> >>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept >> all >> >>>> those >> >>>> >> sorts of things. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -Paul >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > Hi All, >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from >> >>>> >> > having >> >>>> email >> >>>> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having >> >>>> >> > myspace, >> >>>> >> > facebook etc. sites. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can >> check >> >>>> >> > on. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one >> >>>> >> > that >> *I* >> >>>> can >> >>>> >> > delete things from. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the >> >>>> >> > internet >> >>>> >> > that >> >>>> >> might >> >>>> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually >> >>>> >> > forgetting >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a >> >>>> >> > hotmail >> >>>> >> > email >> >>>> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. >> >>>> >> > I >> >>>> finally >> >>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out >> >>>> >> > what >> >>>> >> > he'd >> >>>> >> been >> >>>> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased >> >>>> >> > between >> >>>> >> > when >> >>>> I >> >>>> >> got >> >>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I >> >>>> >> > didn't >> >>>> >> know >> >>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get >> >>>> >> > on >> the >> >>>> net >> >>>> >> and >> >>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all >> >>>> >> > of >> the >> >>>> >> deleted >> >>>> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and >> that >> >>>> >> > he >> >>>> >> had >> >>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was >> being >> >>>> >> hidden >> >>>> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my >> email >> >>>> >> address. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this >> >>>> >> > issue. >> >>>> >> However >> >>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! >> >>>> >> > They >> >>>> >> > had >> >>>> NO >> >>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the >> child >> >>>> was >> >>>> >> over >> >>>> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the >> >>>> >> > account >> >>>> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I >> >>>> >> > was >> >>>> >> > told. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control >> >>>> >> > your >> >>>> >> > kids >> >>>> >> these >> >>>> >> > days? >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > thanks >> >>>> >> > marlon >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >>>> >> > WISPA Wants You! 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