It IS part of the overall cost of an employee, just like the SS and Medicare
match.  It is money that the employer does not have available to pay the
employee a higher wage. 


Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
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-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David Sovereen
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

To be clear, unemployment insurance is paid by employers, NOT employees.
The "you" in those sentences is the company you work(ed) for.  There are no
deductions from employee paychecks for unemployment insurance.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

Yes, it depends on what you put in.

Remember that unemployment is generally what you put in, to a point. The
extensions that the feds put out are actually loans to your state that get
paid back via unemployment taxes that you pay later.

The system works as a basic safety net. I don't mind it.. I just sweat when
I am on it.

ryan

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:

> Unemployment is dependent on your previous job from what I understand.
He
> was in the Marines.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote:
>
> > How much is unemployment in OH?
> >
> > I max out here at 33% of my "normal" salary. I tell you I sweat and
sweat
> > trying to pick up my next gig.
> >
> > ryan
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman
> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
> >
> > > My roommate is on unemployment.  How do you feel "it sucks"?
> > >
> > > He goes to school ~12 hours a week and gets paid more then I take
for
> > > salary
> > > with tuition paid.
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> > continue
> > > that counts."
> > > --- Winston Churchill
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Obviously you have never been on unemployment.
> > > >
> > > > It sucks.
> > > >
> > > > ryan
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
<k...@wavelinc.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to
100
> > > > weeks....
> > > > > Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Fankhauser
> > > > > WAVELINC
> > > > > P.O. Box 126
> > > > > Bucyrus, OH 44820
> > > > > 419-562-6405
> > > > > www.wavelinc.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RickG
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM
> > > > > To: WISPA General List
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset
was
> > > dated!
> > > > > Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure
you
> eat,
> > > > > have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman 
> > > > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > What would my allowance be with no chores?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another big thing...I never got an allowance.  I worked for
my
> > money
> > > > > > (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMO it's crap.  Giving a child money to do what is expected
(help
> > > > > > cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense.
Both my
> > > > > > parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in
turn
> food
> > > and
> > > > > > a bed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/19/10, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Can I adopt you? :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
> > > > > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids.  This is my
personal
> point
> > > of
> > > > > view.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the
basic
> > > > things).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have never done any drugs.  Been offered and been around
them
> > > more
> > > > > then
> > > > > >>> enough.  Never smoked a cigarette in my life.  Never drank
> until
> > I
> > > > > >>> was...very close to 21.  Never got in any trouble at
school.
>  My
> > > > first
> > > > > job
> > > > > >>> led to the second job/career I have today.  I enjoy my
life,
> the
> > > > people
> > > > > >>> around me and the things I have.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> My partner has 3 teenage girls.  He is extremely strict.
One
> of
> > > them
> > > > > gets
> > > > > >>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc.  A
friend I
> > had
> > > in
> > > > > high
> > > > > >>> school was in the same position.  I know where that
person's
> life
> > > > > stands
> > > > > >>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we
hoped
> > our
> > > > > lives
> > > > > >>> would be at 23 or 24.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just
> > providing
> > > > you
> > > > > >>> with
> > > > > >>> my experiences, my results and my facts.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Josh Luthman
> > > > > >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> > > > > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > > > >>> 1100 Wayne St
> > > > > >>> Suite 1337
> > > > > >>> Troy, OH 45373
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the
courage
> to
> > > > > continue
> > > > > >>> that counts."
> > > > > >>> --- Winston Churchill
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG
<rgunder...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but
I
> > > disagree
> > > > > >>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make
> > > mistakes,
> > > > > >>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our
kids are
> > > > > >>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things
that
> may
> > > hurt
> > > > > >>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the
side
> of
> > > > > >>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman 
> > > > > >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back.
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > Josh Luthman
> > > > > >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > > > >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > > > >>>> > 1100 Wayne St
> > > > > >>>> > Suite 1337
> > > > > >>>> > Troy, OH 45373
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the
> courage
> > > to
> > > > > >>>> continue
> > > > > >>>> > that counts."
> > > > > >>>> > --- Winston Churchill
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <
> > > > > pa...@hrec.coop
> > > > > >>>> >wrote:
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was
some
> > > > > discussion
> > > > > >>>> >> at
> > > > > >>>> a
> > > > > >>>> >> workshop I was at recently.
> > > > > >>>> >>
> > > > > >>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The
brand
> > that
> > > > was
> > > > > >>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you
> > > intercept
> > > > > all
> > > > > >>>> those
> > > > > >>>> >> sorts of things.
> > > > > >>>> >>
> > > > > >>>> >> -Paul
> > > > > >>>> >>
> > > > > >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> > > > > >>>> >>
> > > > > >>>> >> > Hi All,
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly
forbidden
> from
> > > > having
> > > > > >>>> email
> > > > > >>>> >> > addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden
from
> > having
> > > > > >>>> >> > myspace,
> > > > > >>>> >> > facebook etc. sites.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that
*I*
> > can
> > > > > check
> > > > > >>>> >> > on.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a
real
> one
> > > > that
> > > > > *I*
> > > > > >>>> can
> > > > > >>>> >> > delete things from.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on
the
> > > > internet
> > > > > >>>> >> > that
> > > > > >>>> >> might
> > > > > >>>> >> > bite them in the butt later.  The days of people
> eventually
> > > > > >>>> >> > forgetting
> > > > > >>>> >> the
> > > > > >>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He
used a
> > > > hotmail
> > > > > >>>> >> > email
> > > > > >>>> >> > address to get it.  He had permission to use neither
of
> > them.
> > > >  I
> > > > > >>>> finally
> > > > > >>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to
check
> > out
> > > > what
> > > > > >>>> >> > he'd
> > > > > >>>> >> been
> > > > > >>>> >> > saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been
erased
> > > > between
> > > > > >>>> >> > when
> > > > > >>>> I
> > > > > >>>> >> got
> > > > > >>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check
on
> it.
> > >  (I
> > > > > >>>> >> > didn't
> > > > > >>>> >> know
> > > > > >>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow
him to
> > get
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> net
> > > > > >>>> >> and
> > > > > >>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep
sigh)
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and
asked for
> > all
> > > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> >> deleted
> > > > > >>>> >> > information.  I explained that I was the father of a
> minor
> > > and
> > > > > that
> > > > > >>>> >> > he
> > > > > >>>> >> had
> > > > > >>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know
what
> > was
> > > > > being
> > > > > >>>> >> hidden
> > > > > >>>> >> > from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as
well as
> > my
> > > > > email
> > > > > >>>> >> address.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly
about
> this
> > > > issue.
> > > > > >>>> >>  However
> > > > > >>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any
> information!!!!!
> > > >  They
> > > > > >>>> >> > had
> > > > > >>>> NO
> > > > > >>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify
that
> > the
> > > > > child
> > > > > >>>> was
> > > > > >>>> >> over
> > > > > >>>> >> > 18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from
> accessing
> > > the
> > > > > >>>> >> > account
> > > > > >>>> >> > information!  "go get it from your teen" is
basically
> what
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > >>>> >> > told.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or
> control
> > > > your
> > > > > >>>> >> > kids
> > > > > >>>> >> these
> > > > > >>>> >> > days?
> > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > >>>> >> > thanks
> > > > > >>>> >> > marlon
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