Obviously you have never been on unemployment. It sucks.
ryan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 weeks.... > Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids > > Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! > Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, > have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman > <[email protected]> wrote: > > What would my allowance be with no chores? > > > > Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money > > (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. > > > > IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help > > cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my > > parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and > > a bed. > > > > On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can I adopt you? :) > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of > view. > >>> > >>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things). > >>> > >>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more > then > >>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I > >>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My first > job > >>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the people > >>> around me and the things I have. > >>> > >>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them > gets > >>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had in > high > >>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life > stands > >>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our > lives > >>> would be at 23 or 24. > >>> > >>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing you > >>> with > >>> my experiences, my results and my facts. > >>> > >>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue > >>> that counts.” > >>> --- Winston Churchill > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree > >>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, > >>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are > >>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt > >>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of > >>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. > >>>> > > >>>> > Josh Luthman > >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>> > 1100 Wayne St > >>>> > Suite 1337 > >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > > >>>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > >>>> continue > >>>> > that counts.” > >>>> > --- Winston Churchill > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < > [email protected] > >>>> >wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some > discussion > >>>> >> at > >>>> a > >>>> >> workshop I was at recently. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was > >>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept > all > >>>> those > >>>> >> sorts of things. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -Paul > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Hi All, > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having > >>>> email > >>>> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having > >>>> >> > myspace, > >>>> >> > facebook etc. sites. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can > check > >>>> >> > on. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that > *I* > >>>> can > >>>> >> > delete things from. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet > >>>> >> > that > >>>> >> might > >>>> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually > >>>> >> > forgetting > >>>> >> the > >>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail > >>>> >> > email > >>>> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I > >>>> finally > >>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what > >>>> >> > he'd > >>>> >> been > >>>> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between > >>>> >> > when > >>>> I > >>>> >> got > >>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I > >>>> >> > didn't > >>>> >> know > >>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on > the > >>>> net > >>>> >> and > >>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of > the > >>>> >> deleted > >>>> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and > that > >>>> >> > he > >>>> >> had > >>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was > being > >>>> >> hidden > >>>> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my > email > >>>> >> address. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. > >>>> >> However > >>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They > >>>> >> > had > >>>> NO > >>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the > child > >>>> was > >>>> >> over > >>>> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the > >>>> >> > account > >>>> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was > >>>> >> > told. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your > >>>> >> > kids > >>>> >> these > >>>> >> > days? > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > thanks > >>>> >> > marlon > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > >>>> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > >>>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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