I think we need the following: 1. A new political party - called the PPR - its close enough to NPR that they might actually support it (by name only) - PPR stands for Party of Personal Responsibility .
2. Unemployment Should begin with 6 months at the current rate and then knock off 5% each month thereafter unless in another entitlement program for education... then give it 1 year Hmmm - imagine how many people would run and become a greeter at walmart or something else if they started loosing benefits at a rate of 5% per month... If you think entitlement programs work - just go and check out Detroit City... ok - thats my rant for today On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: > Eh, stupid should hurt.. and it will. :) > > ryan > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I know significantly more people on unemployment that view it as an >> alternative to an honest job as opposed to a supplement until they get a >> new >> job. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Ryan Spott" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:05 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids >> >>> Obviously you have never been on unemployment. >>> >>> It sucks. >>> >>> ryan >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 >>>> weeks.... >>>> Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> WAVELINC >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> 419-562-6405 >>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids >>>> >>>> Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! >>>> Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, >>>> have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> What would my allowance be with no chores? >>>>> >>>>> Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money >>>>> (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. >>>>> >>>>> IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help >>>>> cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my >>>>> parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and >>>>> a bed. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Can I adopt you? :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of >>>> view. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic >>>>>>> things). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more >>>> then >>>>>>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I >>>>>>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My >>>>>>> first >>>> job >>>>>>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> around me and the things I have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of >> them >>>> gets >>>>>>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had >> in >>>> high >>>>>>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life >>>> stands >>>>>>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our >>>> lives >>>>>>> would be at 23 or 24. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> my experiences, my results and my facts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue >>>>>>> that counts.” >>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I >> disagree >>>>>>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, >>>>>>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are >>>>>>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may >> hurt >>>>>>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of >>>>>>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>> that counts.” >>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some >>>> discussion >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> workshop I was at recently. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept >>>> all >>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>> sorts of things. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Paul >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>> addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having >>>>>>>>>>> myspace, >>>>>>>>>>> facebook etc. sites. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can >>>> check >>>>>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>> *I* >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> delete things from. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the >>>>>>>>>>> internet >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>> bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually >>>>>>>>>>> forgetting >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a >>>>>>>>>>> hotmail >>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>> address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> finally >>>>>>>>>>> found out about the myspace account and went in to check out >>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> he'd >>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>> saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased >>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>> the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. >> (I >>>>>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>> the >>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> deleted >>>>>>>>>>> information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was >>>> being >>>>>>>>>> hidden >>>>>>>>>>> from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my >>>> email >>>>>>>>>> address. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They were very good about contacting me quickly about this >>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>> However >>>>>>>>>>> they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> NO >>>>>>>>>>> proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the >>>> child >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>> 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the >>>>>>>>>>> account >>>>>>>>>>> information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I >>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> told. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control >>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>> days? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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