Maybe I should lay myself off. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.............
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 weeks.... Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > What would my allowance be with no chores? > > Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money > (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. > > IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help > cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my > parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and > a bed. > > On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >> Can I adopt you? :) >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of view. >>> >>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things). >>> >>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more then >>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I >>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My first job >>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the people >>> around me and the things I have. >>> >>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them gets >>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had in high >>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life stands >>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our lives >>> would be at 23 or 24. >>> >>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing you >>> with >>> my experiences, my results and my facts. >>> >>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue >>> that counts. >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree >>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, >>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are >>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt >>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of >>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >>>> > >>>> > Josh Luthman >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > Suite 1337 >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > >>>> > Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue >>>> > that counts. >>>> > --- Winston Churchill >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <[email protected] >>>> >wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some discussion >>>> >> at >>>> a >>>> >> workshop I was at recently. >>>> >> >>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was >>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all >>>> those >>>> >> sorts of things. >>>> >> >>>> >> -Paul >>>> >> >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > Hi All, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having >>>> email >>>> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having >>>> >> > myspace, >>>> >> > facebook etc. sites. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check >>>> >> > on. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* >>>> can >>>> >> > delete things from. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet >>>> >> > that >>>> >> might >>>> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually >>>> >> > forgetting >>>> >> the >>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail >>>> >> > email >>>> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I >>>> finally >>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what >>>> >> > he'd >>>> >> been >>>> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between >>>> >> > when >>>> I >>>> >> got >>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I >>>> >> > didn't >>>> >> know >>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the >>>> net >>>> >> and >>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the >>>> >> deleted >>>> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that >>>> >> > he >>>> >> had >>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being >>>> >> hidden >>>> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email >>>> >> address. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. >>>> >> However >>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They >>>> >> > had >>>> NO >>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child >>>> was >>>> >> over >>>> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the >>>> >> > account >>>> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was >>>> >> > told. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your >>>> >> > kids >>>> >> these >>>> >> > days? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > thanks >>>> >> > marlon >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>>> >> > WISPA Wants You! 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