A couple of more folks to look at .... Keeping in mind that they type of a Mesh Solution you are looking for is more of an 'integration' of off-the shelf products..
If you wish to roll your own.... these folks can provide you with Mesh Software to run on your choice of single board routers..and radios.. http://www.wilibox.com/products/wili-mesh Another set of folks who possibly do a custom design integration .... http://www.meshdynamics.com Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: [email protected] On 6/18/2010 6:19 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > At 6/18/2010 05:49 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: > >> Look at one of our vendor members, higher cost than roll your own, but >> everything in one box, server, radius, etc., etc. It may prove to be a >> lower cost for a difficult start up and difficult area, leading to better >> customer satisfaction and word of mouth advertising, faster ROI and >> penetration. >> http://www.bluemesh.net >> > This doesn't look too much unlike what we had in mind, hardware-wise; > we would have a vendor (who might be a WISPA member; it might go to > bid) configure the boxes to our spec. Bluemesh seems to be using > Ubiquiti rather than Microtik routers, and I like its 117v feed > (since we'll probably mount a lot of these on power poles). Frankly > UBNT and MT companies seem to be competing quite directly on a lot of > these products, so it's not a big deal which one to use. UBNT is > running OpenWRT Kamikaze code, while MT has their own RouterOS. It's > not clear if Bluemesh is basing its system on Kamikaze or something > else. Indeed there's a dearth of information on the Bluemesh site to > say what it can do. Not even a flyer on the radios, their power, etc. > > At this point we're wide open to suggestions. Bear in mind that we > are not looking for an IP solution, but for a Layer 1 or Layer 2 > mesh. (SkyPilot is layer 1, with Ethernet at the edges. Perfect > except for frequency agility. An it ain't cheap.) So tell me more... > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein >> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 1:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [WISPA] MicroTik HWMPplus mesh? >> >> First off, I'd like to say hello to the list. Mike Hammett pointed >> me at it a couple of weeks ago, after I posted a wireless-related >> question (wireless in the trees) at isp-clec, and he reposted it >> here. This list is a lot more active... I've been reading the past >> few months archives and it's really quite informative. >> >> I'm a consultant working with competitive service providers all over >> the place. I don't run a WISP but some clients do. I am working now >> with a startup that wants to serve some "unserved" (no cable or DSL, >> just long-loop POTS/dial-up) remote territory which is about to get >> middle mile service to the nearest "city" (year-round pop.<10,000, >> but it's big for the area) thanks to a stimulus grant. >> >> The unserved "last mile" area covers a strip about 5 to 30 miles from >> the backbone point. It's the RF environment from hell: Heavily >> wooded and hilly. The most valuable strip of land is a long narrow >> beachfront strip a block or so wide, with a palisade (steep wooded >> hill) blocking it from the rest of the area. Plus it's convex >> (curves out into the big lake) so your line of sight within the >> beachside strip is very small. So in most places on the waterfront >> there's not even cellular service, since the cell sites are over the >> rim. No WISP is crazy enough to go there. My clients and I, >> however, are unusually crazy... why else would we be in the >> communications business? >> >> Given that environment, there only way to get to most of the >> subscribers is via multiple hops. We'd come down to the beach in at >> least two points near the ends, maybe in the middle too, and build >> microwave rings. >> >> I don't see how this could work with any of the canned mesh >> solutions. Most, like SkyPilot, only mesh at 5.8 Ghz, and there are >> some paths that are just too woody for that to work. Some of the >> subscriber access sites may need 900 too. I think each RF path and >> local-coverage cell will have to be engineered to local conditions. >> >> What looks to be the most flexible approach might be to use the >> MicroTik Routerboard multi-radio mPCI systems. Then we can use >> off-the-shelf 5.8 GHz cards and PtP antennas for the clear paths, and >> plug in the Ubiquiti XR9 or similar high-power 900 radio for tree >> blasting. User access would probably be sectorized at whatever band works. >> >> MicroTik says they have a meshing protocol, HWMPplus, that provides >> Layer 2 (this is critical; we're not building a Layer 3 network, and >> with this many hops, latency and loss are critical) dynamic meshing, >> essentially applying a routing protocol (smarter than bridge STPs) >> among nodes. I can't find any documentation for it on line, though, >> and a distributor I've been talking to has never tried or sold >> it. So does anyone on the list have any experience with the HWMPplus >> mesh? Or any other suggestions? Thanks! >> >> >> > -- > Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com > ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ > +1 617 795 2701 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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