Jack my friend,

I think you may have been rather harsh with Fred.  For someone who isn't
aware of where the FCC Committee is heading with this, it does sound
somewhat illogical.  IMHO, such a harsh tone pretty much wiped out my
previous attempt today to build membership.  I thought posting the Ex Parte
would be icing on the cake and show the non-members what they are getting
for their dues.  You know I respect you very highly.  I feel I owe it to you
as a friend to encourage you to try and explain it in clearer fashion so
everyone can understand.  I thought maybe Steve would step in and explain
things but he must be away tonight.

Regards,
Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday
> 
>   Oops, typo corrected in 2nd line below (added the word "you").
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2010 5:44 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
> >    Hello Fred,
> >
> > Regarding "snarky insults" - a simple review of this email thread
> reveals that
> > the only "snarky insults" are the ones that you contributed.
> >
> > Please review WISPA's mailing list policies
> at<http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=9>.
> >
> > Regarding your "strong RF and regulatory background" I offer the
> following for
> > your consideration.
> >
> > 1. Join WISPA. A quick review of WISPA's billing server did not
> return either
> > your name or your domain name. Of course, if you are (or once you
> become) a
> > WISPA Member then go to step 2 (below).
> >
> > 2. Join WISPA's FCC Committee and apply your expertise by working
> with WISPA's
> > dedicated, FCC Committee Members who volunteer hundreds of hours of
> work to keep
> > abreast of wireless technology and who discuss, draft and file
> WISPA's FCC
> > comments.
> >
> > Again, have a great day.
> >
> > jack
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/14/2010 5:28 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> >> At 10/14/2010 08:16 PM, you wrote:
> >>>     Fred,
> >>>
> >>> If you don't know how to use this then don't use it. Simple.
> >> Making snarky insults doesn't answer the question.  Quite frankly I
> >> have a pretty strong RF and regulatory background so it is not a
> good
> >> idea to treat me like a dunce.  So I'll ask the question
> >> differently.  Do I need to create a new petition or did you address
> >> the up-the-hill WISP subscriber issue?
> >>
> >> I am looking at potential subscriber locations above 75m HAAT.  So I
> >> want WISPs to be able to put a radio there.  I'm really confused at
> >> what you're trying to do.  Do you really call subscriber units (I'm
> >> imagining the TVWS version of a NanoStation) "receive only" (I
> >> don't), or do you really only want receivers?  Which of course don't
> >> fall under those rules anyway.
> >>
> >>> Thank-you for your opinion and have a good day.
> >>>
> >>> jack
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/14/2010 5:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> >>>> At 10/14/2010 06:35 PM, you wrote:
> >>>>>      Fred,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sites with TVWS receiving equipment instead of TVWS base stations
> >>>>> that transmit.
> >>>> Yes, which is worth precisely zero to a WISP, since we need two-
> way
> >>>> transceivers.  The only receive-only equipment is what goes with
> >>>> wireless mics; the mics themselves are transmit only.
> >>>>
> >>>>> jack
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/14/2010 3:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> >>>>>> At 10/14/2010 06:12 PM, you wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Steve Coran (respresenting WISPA), Comsearch, Motorola and
> Spectrum
> >>>>>>> Bridge met with Julius Knapp and others from the FCC OET office
> >>>>>>> yesterday in regard to certain limiting factors in the TVWS
> >>>>>>> Memorandum Report&     Order language.  Below is the Ex parte
> Filing
> >>>>>>> that was made today.
> >>>>>> Rick, when you guys said "to remove the HAAT restriction for
> >>>>>> receive-only sites", did you really mean receive-only, or did
> you
> >>>>>> mean the PtP subscriber (slave) station that talks to the
> "tower"?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am glad to see action this soon on the 76-meter issue, since
> it not
> >>>>>> only impacts tower locations, but subscriber sites.
> >>     --
> >>     Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
> >>     ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
> >>     +1 617 795 2701
> >>
> >>
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