Also note, because regular compass works on magnatism, it will not always 
function accurately on top of tall buildings, because of all the other forces 
up there that screw with it.
So usually, we print a map, draw a line, and look for landmarks, and calculate 
the degree to a specific landmark, therefore we can align / verify our compass 
to that landmark.
GPS compass will work more accurately.
 
We do almost all our 5.X dish alignments with a single tech, one side at a 
time, and we find it quicker (man hours) to do it that way, even when a second 
trip is needed to the first site..

If aligning millimeterwave 24Ghz and above, well its like near impossible to do 
quickly without two people. 

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Greg Ihnen 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment


  It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in 
magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the 
binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then point 
the dish there?


  Greg


  On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:


    Question:  What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a ptp 
without having a visual on the other side?

    Details:

    When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times.

    The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other end.

    We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile.

    Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge.  Azimuth is a different 
story.  If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal, but what 
if you can't?

    We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, and we 
have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year.



    
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