That's neat too, just downloaded it... Regards, Chuck
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Kevin Sullivan <[email protected]>wrote: > Or SICE AirGhz. It's a free iPhone app that uses the internal compass to > point you at the site, which you can add with lat/long. It also has the > uptilt measurement built in, so you can hold the phone up against the back > of the antenna, and it'll help you get the correct tilt. Pretty cool, but > really only works on the iPhone 4 -- the predecessor's compass wasn't > accurate enough. > > > Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> > *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment > > The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with > pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your > camera view. > > Regards, > > Chuck > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brad Belton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yah…thought I was gonna see this a few days ago…<grin> >> >> >> >> Brad >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Cameron Crum >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM >> *To:* WISPA General List >> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment >> >> >> >> Mike, replying offlist... >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Where is this app? :-p >> >> ----- >> >> Mike Hammett >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: >> >> WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any >> of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for >> you on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price >> to the general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your >> tower locations manually and store them in a local file/db on the phone. Hit >> me offlist if you are interested and we'll try to get it out quicker if >> there is a big show of hands. >> >> Regards, >> >> Cameron >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting >> everything together then hoisting it up. >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Actually not true in many cases. >> >> If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd agree. >> But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy. >> >> >> >> After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a >> fine align just in case we can improve it. BUt 9 out of 10 times, it was not >> necessary and maybe we'll gain a half DB. >> >> >> >> The secret to aligning dishes is to look through the feed hole before the >> feed is screwed in. (for example PAC wireless parabolic dish). You then home >> in on the far side area aiming for, positionioned in cetner of hole, and >> make sure the Ring around the hole appears equal size all around to verify >> it is aligned. Because the hole has metal around it that has DEPTH, maybe >> 1/4-1/2 inch, you can see the depth of this inside surface all around the >> hole. >> >> >> >> As matter of fact, if we dont get our link budget acheieve and we need to >> trouble shoot why, we check cables first, because the odds of having a bad >> cable is higher than the tech getting the first alignment attempt wrong. >> >> >> >> Panels are harder to align, because looking from the side. >> >> >> >> Sure it can be harder to align a big dish with radome that does not have a >> removable feed. >> >> >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> >> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment >> >> >> >> That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily >> lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think >> it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post) >> >> >> >> I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> >> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment >> >> >> >> You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both >> radios being powered. >> >> You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same >> time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before coming >> down at all. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg Ihnen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in >> magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the >> binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then >> point the dish there? >> >> >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote: >> >> >> >> Question: What tools do you use to blindly put up the first end of a >> ptp without having a visual on the other side? >> >> >> >> Details: >> >> >> >> When deploying ptp dishes... One team doing both ends at different times. >> >> >> >> The first dish must be aligned without a connecting radio at the other >> end. >> >> >> >> We know how to get uptilt/downtilt/azimuth from Radio Mobile. >> >> >> >> Uptilt/downtilt is easy to do with a simple gauge. Azimuth is a different >> story. If you can see the site that you're aiming for, no big deal, but >> what if you can't? >> >> >> >> We have a number of backhaul upgrades to do in the next few months, and we >> have alot of fog here in the mornings this time of year. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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