Wow. I didn't mean to start a flame war. We used Rodopi at lamere.net and AirNet Connect, because it had a ready built web interface. It had an interface for customers, customer service types and admins. It integrated with our payment processor and would work with any system (Windows/Linux/Unix) You set up your scripts however you wanted. It filled in the variables and then uploaded them to whatever server you wanted them uploaded to via ftp. You ran a shell script that looked for new scripts in a folder every 10 seconds and it would execute those scripts. I wrote all those scripts in Perl and those scripts also saved all the information to MySQL database.
A quick perusal on the web site yesterday (I haven't run it for years, but not because I don't want to, but because of funding.) and it has plugins for lots of wireless gear and even does DOCSIS provisioning. Its a nice product. Its not cheap, but then neither is CPanel. The beauty of this one is that I could make it work with anything and it wasn't that difficult. I work for a company that does Windows. The systems are as secure as any other. You can change services to run with limited permissions, don't allow users to have administrative access to machines. Sure Windows requires reboots (I still can't get over the fact that it can't seem to unload and reload a driver or re-read the registry without a reboot) when patched. Is that the end of the world? no. Is linux better at patch management? yes. Windows has had a lot of improvements over the years and Server 2003 has been very stable. Sure it has ActiveX and thats a problem. Would I put it outside of a firewall? No way in hell. I'm very agnostic about these things. You use the right tool for the job. For the record, I'm LAMP guy. For the last two years, I've been working for a company that wants everything done in Visual Studio .NET and C#. Its a tolerable environment and it pays the bills. Use the right tool for the job. --Curtis On 12/7/2010 2:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Who said it auto rebooted? I had it reboot the machine to apply the > updates. I've had to reboot Windows servers for all kinds of things, > even installing an application. > > I did not mean to reference Windows was slower, but rather required > more administrative time. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Scott Reed<[email protected]> wrote: >> So why do you have auto-update turned on? Why do you allow it to reboot >> the machine? >> This doesn't sound as much like a Windows issue as a SysAdmin issue. >> I have run a data center for a Fortune 100 company. We did a huge >> amount of real-time data collection using Windows applications to gather >> and Oracle on Unix to store. Can't say that we spent more time with one >> platform than the other. >> >> On 12/7/2010 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> I'm sure many share my experience, similarly or identically. >>> >>> I have several Linux servers (http, monitoring, mysql/php, etc). >>> Never an issue with any of them. >>> >>> One Windows server - for ONLY Quickbooks. I have issues with it at >>> least once a week. Updates reboot it and configuration is lost. >>> Rights to add a printer for the CPA. Rights for IE's security >>> permissions. Disk filled up with 10 gigabytes of Windows junk >>> (updates I'm guessing). It's just a mess. >>> >>> Defend Windows as much as you want, but you can't deny Windows servers >>> tend to cost more time. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Steve Barnes<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Very Well Said Mark Nash. All servers, OS, and software have a learning >>>> Curve. I know nothing of Linux. Not because the desire is not there, the >>>> time isn't. There are things that I could manage better with a few free >>>> apps and Linux servers. But to this point at<700 clients I haven't needed >>>> it and I will be looking into that in the future. >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Mark Nash >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:04 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems >>>> >>>> Nice Shane... How about a server with no NIC. Now THAT would be a secure >>>> server, mostly. But what if a user got to the keyboard? Pull the power >>>> supply, now they'll surely not be able to break in... WAIT! >>>> There's still data on the hard drive! Better erase that... >>>> >>>> Dude, this is meant to be in jest, and to make a point. I don't currently >>>> run any Windows servers due to the engineer that we had in our office >>>> (which we now don't have so we have to rely on outside consultants for >>>> Linux expertise). But I ran on them for the first 7 years with our mail >>>> server, web server, DNS servers, etc. >>>> >>>> Anyway... >>>> >>>> Flame on about Windows servers, people, but the small business world runs >>>> on them. For those of you who own your WISPs and don't know anything >>>> about servers, don't listen to sensational hype. Take a sensible and >>>> tactical approach and do what's right for your business. >>>> Any server is just a tool. Pluses& minuses. You have to do a >>>> cost/benefit analysis with a server just as you would which kind of radio >>>> to use in the field, or who to hire to answer your phones. >>>> >>>> On 12/7/2010 7:47 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote: >>>>> I get scared when I hear "Windows" and "Software" in the same sentence. >>>>> Then when you add "Server" I usually run. >>>>> >>>>> Shane MacDonald >>>>> KP Performance Antennas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7-Dec-10, at 8:11 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We used Rodopi. If you can handle the fact that its Windows and >>>>>> ASP.NET and MSSQL server, its OK. It works very well and very >>>>>> configurable. We had it set up on Windows Small Business Server, >>>>>> that is the version with MSSQL server. >>>>>> >>>>>> For what its worth. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Curtis >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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