I did my coverage with Connected TN about a year ago and have not heard from 
them since except for a revise.

Scott
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck Hogg 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules


  I didn't say that, but it is well known.


  Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect 
Kentucky.  I said sure, send over the paperwork.  It was a minimum $10k to be 
listed on the associates part.  $50k to be a partner.  Do they honestly think I 
can afford either?  Guess who was partners? HughesNet, WildBlue, Bellsouth 
(AT&T), Time Warner, Windstream, Insight... so when a customer in my area 
called them to see about access, even though I fully cooperated with CK, went 
to EVERY meeting, provided them with full mapping data and showed them how to 
use Radio Mobile, they referred them to HughesNet or WildBlue.  They knew I had 
that area covered, it was very blatant, but because I didn't pay them the 
money, they referred them to an inferior product, satellite service.  They were 
provided with MILLIONS!!! to do mapping for Kentucky.  The maps they did were 
immediately removed and taken offline as soon as their funding ran out.  It was 
done in spite of the Kentucky Government.  The TAX PAYERS OWN THAT DATA, and 
they stole it from us all.  Guess what happened another year later?  Another 
company was hired to do THAT EXACT SAME MAPPING again, and yes, they got 
MILLIONS again.


  I tried MULTIPLE times to work with them, and MANY MANY MANY open ended 
promised were made by them.


  None of this is opinion, it's all FACT.  Ask MANY MANY MANY people around the 
US that are under a Connect program.  Most will show their displeasure.

  Regards,

  Chuck



  On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:41 PM, David Hannum <[email protected]> wrote:

    Chuck said: "It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front for 
the Bells."  

    I would agree with that it is a well known "opinion" by many on this list.  
However, from what we've seen, they lobby as much, if not more, for independent 
companies like most of us are.  They lobby for Broadband in general - they 
don't play favorites at the high level.  However, they have some very 
knowledgible, dedicated wireless guys.  And if you work very much with them, 
you'd see that wireles is all those guys are about.  

    Dave Hannum
    New Era Broadband, LLC 




     
    On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Fred Goldstein <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      At 1/15/2011 08:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
      >You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised.  However,
      >nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and
      >I do.  After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this
      >mapping, that public information was removed from their website.
      >Millions of tax paying dollars down the drain.  Because of the
      >potential WISPA problems, I won't tell you how I really feel.


      I'm not a member (yet) so take that as a disclaimer.  This is the
      public forum, not official correspondence.

      It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front for the
      Bells.  Bob's satire was harmless, reflective of their value to
      independent ISPs, wireless and otherwise.  If CN is whinging, let
      them, because it hit home.

      Bob's contributions have at times been a high point of this
      list.  Not everything has to be somber.


      >On Saturday, January 15, 2011, Josh Luthman
      ><[email protected]> wrote:
      > > The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content
      > makes WISPA look.
      > > We have our opinions.  We are people.  But we, as adults and
      > businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement.


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