We all know that Mark Koskenmaki has good points sometimes. The trouble is that it's shrouded in the fact that he's a dick and doesn't actually want to help..he just wants to bitch.
Notice that he's not on the members list. Again doesn't want to help...just wants to bitch. Dick. On 7/16/2011 3:19 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > I'm sorry I guess I missed you at the Legislative Committee list when I > was putting this together sending out drafts and asking for comments and > help</sarcasm>. WISPA is a representation of those who show up to help > formulate consensus and policy, not my personal views. So easy to throw > darts at the end result when you wouldn't be part of the process, isn't it? > > On 7/15/2011 7:07 PM, MDK wrote: >> Nice re-write of history, Forbes. Who are you trying to protect? >> >> It is NOT Congress which has been the motivating factor behind the FCC's >> anti-competitive behavior... It has been the administration and the people >> that this administration have appointed and have hired, combined with a >> small number of extreme left-wing groups who have been pushing Net >> Neutrality, etc. It was NEVER Congress that pushed this. >> >> Your effort to see spectrum auctioned is not so much a matter of lobbyists >> having taken over Congress as it is a matter of Congress finding ways to >> raise money. A later poster reminded us that not only is Congress >> unfamiliar with what we do and how we do it - along with why we are needed - >> the FCC is just as ignorant as well. Despite that fact that WISPA has >> communicated, the FCC people as a whole just DO NOT GRASP the realities of >> free market service providers. >> >> Until the readers were so sore here that nobody would talk to me, and >> threatened to expel me, I tried to explain how WISPA needed to take a >> PRINCIPLED STAND at the time WISPA began to be noticed in DC, that we >> believed in Free Markets and freedom to do business, without being >> encumbered (killed) by federal regulation. >> >> To this day, WISPA has no published principles which say that it, or you, >> believe in free markets, open competition, and consumer - oriented >> stewardship of the nation's RF spectrum-rather than auctioning the assets to >> the largest bidder. Instead, WISPA has a history of alternatively being for >> and against various actions - mostly based upon whether or not it was >> financially a win for the larger voices of WISPA. >> >> This lack of principled direction has now come and bitten us in the >> backside, potentially lethally. The central notion we have to fight is >> that spectrum should be auctioned (revenue to the feds) to the highest >> bidder. And someone, in their ignorance, has managed to commit an idea >> commensurate to your local city government suddenly deciding to create a >> "license to sell groceries" and has structured it so that it is all tied to >> one auction, where any deep pockets bidder can remove the ability of all the >> incumbents to stay in business. Instead of educating Congress, the FCC >> ,and our allies (if we have any) about how freedom to be in business has >> been the central mechanism by which a vast swath of America has great >> internet service, we've quibbled over dollars and rules and tried to slant >> them for us against others - the very thinking we must now defeat. >> >> I have said we all stand on freedom, or fall together, and for this I have >> been branded as a radical, idiot, moron, right wing extremist, and so on - >> as such principles are, according to the self proclaimed 'wise men' of the >> group, outdated and unworkable. Until we need them, of course. Even the >> tortured and twisted explanation below is still trying to defend the big >> government crapola, and by now, it better be as clear and obvious to you, as >> a just hammered thumbnail, that NOTHING ELSE MATTERS IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE >> FREEDOM TO BE IN BUSINESS. >> >> I was at founding of WISPA. I was there within a week or two of the >> interest list being formed, and I joined and donated money, until previous >> people of WISPA were found by me to be advocating FCC mandates on us. At >> which I resigned and will not rejoin until my money is no longer at risk of >> being used against our basic and fundamental freedoms. >> >> YEARS have been sqandered, because WISPA failed to advocate for freedom >> first, a consistent, principled basis for everything said, advocacy >> positions, etc. Now, you have to suddenly "get religion", because >> EVERYONE's freedom is at stake, even our competition's,. Rather than >> advocate for that, WISPA now has a history just as compromised as AT&T's and >> every lobbyist's, because it stood for little more than trying to bend the >> rules to favor US instead of "THEM". Expediently, we've "discovered" that >> open markets mean open to competition, as well, something not advocated by >> WISPA before. >> >> I said in 2009 that there were people headed for Congress, a sea change >> coming, and that WISPA needed to get politically allied with the pro freedom >> crowd. They were called radicals and idiots on this list instead. >> >> If you have even ONCE advocated for big government intervention... For >> money your way, for regulation to favor you instead of them, for a chance to >> get your hands on the subsidies, or IN ANY WAY supported the notion of >> government intervention in the markets.... YOU are directly to blame for the >> mess we're facing. YOU failed to stand for the ONE thing that matters, >> freedom. I sure hope we win this fight. >> >> When I started posting about defending your right to be in business several >> years ago, it was because I had envisioned this happening, it was written on >> the wall, in big letters. I told you so. Are you going to get serious, or >> this just going to be just more arguments of convenience? >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Forbes Mercy"<forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:03 AM >> To:<memb...@wispa.org>; "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire >> >>> TO WISP's >>> >>> I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling >>> unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I >>> perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of >>> you may complain that the FCC is an overreaching intruder into our >>> business. While Federal Government oversight and regulations into our >>> rapidly growing industry may seem intrusive WISPA has always had their >>> ear and we feel they listen and include us into much of their decision >>> making process. There is no doubt they truly want nation-wide service >>> and recognize the lack of enthusiastic expansion by major players >>> (legacy carriers) into the rural area which is our strongest argument. >>> >>> Starting with Net Neutrality we noticed that Congress was starting to >>> politicize the work of the FCC. Some of you thought that was a good >>> thing since you felt the FCC was slow in releasing frequencies. The >>> micro-management of the FCC on that first issue has rapidly grown to >>> full fledged taking over of the FCC's mission. Once the legacy >>> characters found that they could go around the FCC to Congress, where >>> they already give millions in "donations", they knew they had one big >>> leg up on small budget organizations like WISPA. They are now flexing >>> their full lobbying muscle by getting some 'friends' in Congress to >>> introduce bills that would freeze any future expansion of the WISP >>> market locking us out of the lower frequencies that we need to penetrate >>> vegetation and terrain. Much like teaching the Internet to your parents >>> other legislators look at the new laws with dazed amazement and just say >>> OK not realizing the ramifications and listening to the lobbyist spin. >>> >>> WISPA is not sitting back on this one, last year our board was not >>> afraid to go far out of budget to get our feet firmly in the door on >>> issues such as TV White Spaces (TV White Spaces) and the Universal >>> Service Fund change to Connect America Fund (CAF). It appears all that >>> work is now under scrutiny by Congress and their answer seems to be one >>> of 'lets just put all frequencies up for bid, licensed and unlicensed'. >>> None of us WISP's could afford to bid against the likes of AT&T and >>> Verizon and it has the potential of locking all small business out of >>> any future frequencies. >>> >>> Yesterday the Legislative, FCC, and Promotions Committee of WISPA got >>> together and released a letter to all Congressional Members of several >>> committees relevant to this battle, in addition we paid to have a formal >>> press release sent to the media objecting to this path that both the >>> Senate and House seem to be pursuing. We are now interviewing potential >>> Lobbyists (something we've never needed before) and, other firms that >>> can help us with this new front we have to fight on. >>> >>> Where WISPA will have to go to get the ear of Congress to stop this >>> insane path is all new to us but we are up to the challange. We have >>> great legal counsel, members that can attend and testify hearings, >>> allies in other groups such as New America feel the pain like us on this >>> issue. We will be making alliances, learning how to do social >>> networking to reach our members, our members subscribers and, anyone who >>> will side with us to form grass roots efforts to get the attention of >>> Congress. At this point we are not asking for a special assessment or >>> other means to aggressively answer this call, we are within budget so >>> far but it's hard to say how far this will go. We simply are asking you >>> to watch closely what we inform membership, prepare to be involved >>> because unless you are content with the current frequencies and rules we >>> are under you will directly be affected by this Congressional action. >>> >>> If we give in to these irrational rules don't think Congress or the >>> legacy characters will stop there, if they sell the revenue model >>> successfully they could go after existing frequencies too. WISPA will >>> be releasing talking points next week so that you can help us by making >>> appointments with your Congressperson while they are in district during >>> the month of August. We really need to educate them that this path is >>> bad for America and their constituents. If you need constant updates >>> please join the Legislative Committee as we will be posting most of the >>> Legislative work in that venue. 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