+1 on this.

IMHO the ISP should not be the Police.  There are a pretty good amount of
companies out there who contract with law firms, labels, or are just plain
not legit.  These companies are bounty hunters.  They send out massive
amounts of e-mail hoping to get a bite.  If any money comes out of it they
get a bounty.

My favorite are the people who say they will accept $15 via Paypal to
prevent any more legal action.

Justin

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From:  Scott Reed <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date:  Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:05:40 -0400
To:  WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Individual IP addresses

>     
>  Personal opinion here:
>  Unless you have a subpoena from a law enforcement agency, you don't need to
> do a thing.
>  If you have a subpoena, explain to them that your network configuration does
> not allow you to identify the user.  Ask them what kind of assistance they can
> offer.
>  End of opinion.
>  
>  They should know the IP address on the other end.  Run Torch on the inside of
> your network with the other IP as the Destination address.  See which customer
> hits it.
>  OR, run Packet Sniffer (a MT tool) withe the IP address in the filter.  After
> a while analyze the file with WireShark or something similar.
>  
>  On 9/9/2011 7:34 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>>    
>> I need to know which client is  downloading copyrighted material.
>>  
>> NGL
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:24 PM
>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> To: WISPA General List <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>  
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Individual IP addresses
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  www.arin.org <http://www.arin.org>  assuming you are in the Americas.
>>> Otherwise you will get assignments from the organization for your area.
>>>  IP addresses are not cheap, but are obtainable.
>>>  I know Bret said NAT is not ideal, but I have 500 customers behind a couple
>>> of NATs in the same /24 from my provider and I do not have any problems.
>>>  What issue are you trying to solve?
>>>  
>>>  On 9/9/2011 6:23 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> How many  addresses are in a block?
>>>>  
>>>> What is the cost?
>>>>  
>>>> NGL
>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:09 PM
>>>>>  
>>>>> To: WISPA General List <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Individual IP addresses
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you want to buy a block from ARIN? Isp?
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>  Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>  1100 Wayne St
>>>>>  Suite 1337
>>>>>  Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2011 5:38 PM, "~NGL~" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>  > No, I believe I need my own block of IP addresses to assign.
>>>>>>  > NGL
>>>>>>  > 
>>>>>>  > --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>  > From: "Scott Reed" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>  > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:31 PM
>>>>>>  > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Individual IP addresses
>>>>>>  > 
>>>>>>>  >> So how are they configured that they use the same address?
>>>>>>>  >> Are you looking for DHCP?
>>>>>>>  >>
>>>>>>>  >> On 9/9/2011 5:22 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>  >>> Wireless
>>>>>>>>  >>>
>>>>>>>>  >>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>  >>> From: "Scott Reed"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>  >>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:17 PM
>>>>>>>>  >>> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>  >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Individual IP addresses
>>>>>>>>  >>>
>>>>>>>>>  >>>> What kind of clients?
>>>>>>>>>  >>>> Is this a wireless, wired, hotspot or some other kind of
>>>>>>>>> network?
>>>>>>>>>  >>>>
>>>>>>>>>  >>>> On 9/9/2011 4:33 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> Please provide more information on what you're trying to
>>>>>>>>>> achieve. Are
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> talking about public or private addresses?
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> Blake Covarrubias
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 11:29 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>> How do I setup my clients so they all have individual IP
>>>>>>>>>>> addresses?
>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>> NGL
>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>
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