Wait, am I disagreeing with Fred? :-p True, there are companies holding onto IPv4 space they aren't using that they will sell, but the price of those will quickly escalate for people with more money than ambition to implement IPv6.
Asia may not be important to most Americans, but with RIPE running out of IPv4 blocks as well (and likely far fewer legacy block holders), there will be connectivity issues going to European organizations. Doing IPv6 really isn't that difficult to do and I hope to have everything of mine (including hosted services) dual stacked by the next IPv6 Day. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:35:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready? At 10/27/2012 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >IPv6-only networks aren't far out in ARIN land. Well, unless you >like paying out of the nose for third party blocks. I'd say less >than 5 years before you cannot obtain an IPv4 address in North >America. Complete European and Asian access will require IPv6 soon >as they're out of IPv4 already. > I don't want to get into a flame war here, but suffice to say that there is an opposing opinion. IPv6 is five years away from mass adoption, but this statement is always true. IPv4 addresses will be used more efficiently. They will be resold. There will be more NAT (which only breaks broken applications). So they will always be available. What has ended is the "homestead act" era of IPv4. Homesteads were free land given to farmers. When they ran out, farming didn't stop; the land could be resold. Same with IPv4. When it was a free resource, people squandered it. I'm still looking to see how to totally turn off IPv6 in RouterOS, as its being on by default scares me. It's essentially a giant back door used primarily by hackers. >----- >Mike Hammett >Intelligent Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Carullo" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:18:35 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready? > > >I'm fairly sure you can change the binding order to adjust this >operation to suite your preference. (which one the computer tried first) > >I don't see IPv6 utilized in my real world until 5-10 years from >now. We do provide some customers v6 routed address space and our >entire network is routed and supports it, but thats because people >like to play with it because its something new in the networking >world they want to understand, not because anyone actually requires >it. It does provide a small marketing bonus, for those that don't >understand it - sounds good any way lol > >I see it as somewhat as a liability to my network, since there are >sure to be bugs in its implementation and dual stack functionality. >Just a fear I have, been there done that with different routing >protocols in the past and the programmers have not yet achieved >perfection yet :) > >But, I flex, have to let people have their v6 fun (employees and >customers alike...) > > >Scott Carullo >Technical Operations >855-FLSPEED x102 > > >_______________________________________________ >Wireless mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >_______________________________________________ >Wireless mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
