At 10/27/2012 10:44 PM, MikeH wrote: >Wait, am I disagreeing with Fred? :-p
Yep. ;-) Of course I don't mind disagreeing with the crowd. I'm curmudgeonly enough. Anyway, rather than discuss it here on the list, I'll just give a couple of file pointers. An article I wrote seven years ago but is still somewhat current (since IPv6 is always five years away ;-) ): IPv6: More Filling, Less Taste http://www.ionary.com/ion-ipv6.html And a more general slide presentation on the topic of naming and addressing by John Day from 2010, which points out why IPv6 is answering the wrong question and solving a non-problem while the actual problems are ignored: http://www.pouzinsociety.org/images/KoreaNamingFund100218.pdf Enjoy. >True, there are companies holding onto IPv4 space they aren't using >that they will sell, but the price of those will quickly escalate >for people with more money than ambition to implement IPv6. > >Asia may not be important to most Americans, but with RIPE running >out of IPv4 blocks as well (and likely far fewer legacy block >holders), there will be connectivity issues going to European organizations. > >Doing IPv6 really isn't that difficult to do and I hope to have >everything of mine (including hosted services) dual stacked by the >next IPv6 Day. > > > >----- >Mike Hammett >Intelligent Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]> >To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:35:26 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready? > >At 10/27/2012 10:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >IPv6-only networks aren't far out in ARIN land. Well, unless you > >like paying out of the nose for third party blocks. I'd say less > >than 5 years before you cannot obtain an IPv4 address in North > >America. Complete European and Asian access will require IPv6 soon > >as they're out of IPv4 already. > > > >I don't want to get into a flame war here, but suffice to say that >there is an opposing opinion. IPv6 is five years away from mass >adoption, but this statement is always true. > >IPv4 addresses will be used more efficiently. They will be >resold. There will be more NAT (which only breaks broken >applications). So they will always be available. What has ended is >the "homestead act" era of IPv4. Homesteads were free land given to >farmers. When they ran out, farming didn't stop; the land could be >resold. Same with IPv4. When it was a free resource, people squandered it. > >I'm still looking to see how to totally turn off IPv6 in RouterOS, as >its being on by default scares me. It's essentially a giant back >door used primarily by hackers. > > > >----- > >Mike Hammett > >Intelligent Computing Solutions > >http://www.ics-il.com > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Scott Carullo" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:18:35 AM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready? > > > > > >I'm fairly sure you can change the binding order to adjust this > >operation to suite your preference. (which one the computer tried first) > > > >I don't see IPv6 utilized in my real world until 5-10 years from > >now. We do provide some customers v6 routed address space and our > >entire network is routed and supports it, but thats because people > >like to play with it because its something new in the networking > >world they want to understand, not because anyone actually requires > >it. It does provide a small marketing bonus, for those that don't > >understand it - sounds good any way lol > > > >I see it as somewhat as a liability to my network, since there are > >sure to be bugs in its implementation and dual stack functionality. > >Just a fear I have, been there done that with different routing > >protocols in the past and the programmers have not yet achieved > >perfection yet :) > > > >But, I flex, have to let people have their v6 fun (employees and > >customers alike...) > > -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
