And then you have this...
http://www.aglmediagroup.com/joint-use-power-poles-raise-safety-issues/

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matt Hoppes <mhop...@indigowireless.com>wrote:

> Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use
> the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast.
>
> This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum...
> with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote:
> > Spectrum trashers....   At least if there's no traffic on them there
> > shouldn't be much noise..
> >
> > On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
> >> He's talking about these... (see attached)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
> >> <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
> >>      the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing
> through
> >>      the city on every corner....  clear LOS to every tower around.
> >>
> >>      Scott Carullo
> >>      Technical Operations
> >>      855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>      *From*: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
> >>      <mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>>
> >>      *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>      *To*: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
> >>      <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> >>      *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>      One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
> >>      free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
> >>      indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
> >>      source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
> >>      laws of physics work in your favor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Thank You,
> >>
> >>      Brian Webster
> >>
> >>      www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> >>
> >>      www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>      <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
> >>      [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>      <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
> >>      *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
> >>      *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
> >>      <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>; WISPA General List
> >>      *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
> >>      we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
> >>      me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
> >>      there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some
> radios
> >>      (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
> >>      its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
> >>      the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we
> always do.
> >>
> >>      I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
> >>      will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
> >>      compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
> >>      drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
> >>      knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to
> them....
> >>
> >>      Scott Carullo
> >>      Technical Operations
> >>      855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>      *From*: "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com
> >>      <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
> >>      *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> >>      *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
> >"
> >>      <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>,
> >>      "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:
> wireless@wispa.org>>
> >>      *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
> >>      <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> >>      *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>      Are you seeing any impact from them?
> >>
> >>
> >>      On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo"
> >>      <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>          Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
> >>          corner.  Already seeing that in our areas....  do a wireless
> >>          scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
> >>          (they run dual band APs now).
> >>
> >>          Scott Carullo
> >>          Technical Operations
> >>          855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>          *From*: "Bret Clark" <bcl...@spectraaccess.com
> >>          <mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com>>
> >>          *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM
> >>          *To*: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
> >>          *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz
> spectrum.
> >>
> >>          What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of
> >>          spectrum...[/sarcasm off]
> >>
> >>          On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote:
> >>
> >>              I hope the links at the bottom come through.
> >>
> >>
>  ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to
> >>              power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to
> >>              deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP
> of
> >>              Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy
> >>              and Commerce hearing on Wednesday.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has
> >>              expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity
> >>              high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's
> >>              largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways
> >>              from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be
> >>              able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band,
> Nagel
> >>              said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet
> demand
> >>              from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition
> >>              from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to
> >>              use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car
> >>              applications, including applications that would warn
> drivers
> >>              of collision threats.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns
> >>              about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at
> >>              Wednesday's hearing.  "We have been actively engaged with
> >>              the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are
> exploring
> >>              possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of
> >>              harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not
> >>              there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if
> >>              we can get there," Kenney said in his prepared testimony.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>              For more:
> >>              - see Nagel's prepared testimony
> >>              <
> http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=207&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
> (.pdf)
> >>              - see Kenney's prepared testimony
> >>              <
> http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=187&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
> (.pdf)
> >>              - see Comcast blog post
> >>              <
> http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=118&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0
> >
> >>              - /Broadcasting & Cable/ has this story
> >>              <
> http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=190&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0
> >
> >>
> >>
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