I just ran a test across an AirFiber link with 384 byte packets.  The
interface shows it passing about 650Mbps going from an i7 x86 to a CCR with
existing Internet traffic.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Tom DeReggi <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Sam,
> Thats quite impressive, to be able to support that many queues and filter
> rules. So apparently, those key services must be multi processor.
> That is good to learn.
>
> Eric,
> Regarding single core apps. It may not matter all that much if an app is
> single core, if it can use a unique core.
> My concern is if key single core apps default to sharing the same core.
>
> Faisal,
> A single 1.2G processor per port is probably fine for large packets and
> Full throughput. Im concerned on whether a single 1.2G core would be enough
> for full throughput with average small packet sizes or DDOS situations.
> With X86 processors, in the past we've shown it was not. But then again,
> the CCRs arent X86, and our past 4core X86 test machines, didnt have 36
> procs to handle the load of other processes.
>
> Paul,
> Since we are on a budget, and need something to put in place quickly w/
> SPFs, sounds like the 36core CCRs will solve our immediate need for Core
> BGP Router. It clearly will do way much better than the 1100 dual core
> that we temporarilly put in place, until we had time to order in a CCR.
>
> Whether the CCR will handle our growth plans for head end, thats yet to be
> seen.
> In our application we wont have nearly the number of rules per router as
> Sam's example, as we do filtering and bandwidth management at each tower,
> to spread out the load.
>
> Last Question:
> Long term, what Im most concerned about is how much throughput can be
> passed per gig port. Meaning how close to theoretical wirespeed. Because
> when calculating a providers cost per MB, its a big difference whether a
> router port can push the full GB versus say 50%.
> It can double a provider's cost per MB, requiring duplicating ones fiber
> infrastructure prematurely.
>
> Has anyone tested how small the average packet size can be and still
> achieve theoretical wirespeed, in a simplified configuration over a single
> port?
>
> 1Gbps FDX, can 90% of that be acheived with 384k avg packet size?
>
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sam Tetherow <[email protected]>
> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 5:28 PM
> *Subject:* [Spam] Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik on Multi-core
>
> Replaced an aging powerrouter 732 with a CCR-1036.  Set up as a
> transparent bridge for traffic shaping.  Passing 478M peak with 8200
> interface bridge filter rules and 8000 queue tree entries, cpu utilization
> peaks at about 50 and all 36 CPUs are in use according to /system resource
> cpu print
>
> The 732 started giving us CPU limitations at about 240Mbps.  The whole
> thing could be reworked so we didn't have so many filter rules or queue
> tree entries, but the original installation replaced a MAC based bandwidth
> limiter and they wanted to keep that setup.
>
> Other than some lockup issues we had on ROS versions before 6.7 we have
> been pretty happy with the box and for under $1k it is hard to beat.
>
>
> On 01/24/2014 03:53 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. Been awhile since Ive been here, so not sure if this is a
> redundant topic or not.
>
> Anyone got experience with Mikrotik on their newer Multi-Core platform,
> using as a Core Router for interconnecting multiple Gig backbone
> connections (w/ BGP, OSPF, Queues, Firewalls, VLAN  tagging)?
>
> To be more specific....  Comparing Mikrotik's 36 core 1.2Ghz models to
> say a third party Quad core 3Ghz model.
>
> What do we need 36 cores for, when we got 11 eth ports? Are they even used
> by software? Is later Mikrotik Firmware allowing....
> - multiple processors to handle a singe NIC port?
> - which Mikrotik software features are able to effectively spread
> accross to a unique processor or use multiple processors?
>
> Is 1.2Ghz enough?
>
> Do the embedded NICs in the 36core units pass full Gig capacity? (In past,
> we learned depending on which NIC and driver brand, a NIC could pass as low
> as only 30% of full capacity w/ large packets, where as a later generation
> PCIE w/ ATIO Intel could pass upward of 90% of full capacity w/ small
> packets.)
>
> Im asking because back in the day, there were many Linux services relating
> to routing that were written to be only single processor support.
> Because of this, it was important to have the highest speed Ghz processor
> possible, since some critical services (the bottleneck) would share only 1
> primary processor, regardless of how many processors were in the router.
>
> In past experience specific to Mikrotiktik, I often ran into issues with
> added features (firewall rules, Queues, etc) drastically draining the
> processing power of a MT router slowing throughput way below the
> theoretical published port throughput.
>
> For example, can Queues or Firewalls spread multiple processors?
>
> Can these 36core units handle bandwdith management (Limiting or Queues)
> for high speed subscribers, such as 100mb and 200 mbps customers?
> In the GUI of v6.7, I dont see anything higher than 2mb or 10mb depending
> on location of parameter.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> 301-515-7774
> IntAirNet - Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
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