Which is pretty close to the limit for an AirFiber, based on our earlier testing w/ small-ish packets.

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
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On 01/24/2014 05:12 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
I just ran a test across an AirFiber link with 384 byte packets. The interface shows it passing about 650Mbps going from an i7 x86 to a CCR with existing Internet traffic.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net <mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>> wrote:

    Sam,
    Thats quite impressive, to be able to support that many queues and
    filter rules. So apparently, those key services must be multi
    processor.
    That is good to learn.
    Eric,
    Regarding single core apps. It may not matter all that much if an
    app is single core, if it can use a unique core.
    My concern is if key single core apps default to sharing the same
    core.
    Faisal,
    A single 1.2G processor per port is probably fine for large
    packets and Full throughput. Im concerned on whether a single 1.2G
    core would be enough for full throughput with average small packet
    sizes or DDOS situations. With X86 processors, in the past we've
    shown it was not. But then again, the CCRs arent X86, and our past
    4core X86 test machines, didnt have 36 procs to handle the load of
    other processes.
    Paul,
    Since we are on a budget, and need something to put in place
    quickly w/ SPFs, sounds like the 36core CCRs will solve our
    immediate need for Core BGP Router. It clearly will do way much
    better than the 1100 dual core that we temporarilly put in place,
    until we had time to order in a CCR.
    Whether the CCR will handle our growth plans for head end, thats
    yet to be seen.
    In our application we wont have nearly the number of rules per
    router as Sam's example, as we do filtering and bandwidth
    management at each tower, to spread out the load.
    Last Question:
    Long term, what Im most concerned about is how much throughput can
    be passed per gig port. Meaning how close to theoretical
    wirespeed. Because
    when calculating a providers cost per MB, its a big difference
    whether a router port can push the full GB versus say 50%.
    It can double a provider's cost per MB, requiring duplicating ones
    fiber infrastructure prematurely.
    Has anyone tested how small the average packet size can be and
    still achieve theoretical wirespeed, in a simplified configuration
    over a single port?
    1Gbps FDX, can 90% of that be acheived with 384k avg packet size?
    Tom DeReggi
    RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
    IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Sam Tetherow <mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>
        *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
        *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 5:28 PM
        *Subject:* [Spam] Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik on Multi-core

        Replaced an aging powerrouter 732 with a CCR-1036. Set up as a
        transparent bridge for traffic shaping. Passing 478M peak with
        8200 interface bridge filter rules and 8000 queue tree
        entries, cpu utilization peaks at about 50 and all 36 CPUs are
        in use according to /system resource cpu print

The 732 started giving us CPU limitations at about 240Mbps. The whole thing could be reworked so we didn't have so many
        filter rules or queue tree entries, but the original
        installation replaced a MAC based bandwidth limiter and they
        wanted to keep that setup.

        Other than some lockup issues we had on ROS versions before
        6.7 we have been pretty happy with the box and for under $1k
        it is hard to beat.


        On 01/24/2014 03:53 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
        Hi everyone. Been awhile since Ive been here, so not sure if
        this is a redundant topic or not.
        Anyone got experience with Mikrotik on their newer Multi-Core
        platform, using as a Core Router for interconnecting multiple
        Gig backbone connections (w/ BGP, OSPF, Queues, Firewalls,
        VLAN  tagging)?
        To be more specific.... Comparing Mikrotik's 36 core 1.2Ghz
        models to say a third party Quad core 3Ghz model.
        What do we need 36 cores for, when we got 11 eth ports? Are
        they even used by software? Is later Mikrotik
        Firmware allowing....
        - multiple processors to handle a singe NIC port?
        - which Mikrotik software features are able to effectively
        spread accross to a unique processor or use multiple processors?
        Is 1.2Ghz enough?
        Do the embedded NICs in the 36core units pass full Gig
        capacity? (In past, we learned depending on which NIC and
        driver brand, a NIC could pass as low as only 30% of full
        capacity w/ large packets, where as a later generation PCIE
        w/ ATIO Intel could pass upward of 90% of full capacity w/
        small packets.)
        Im asking because back in the day, there were many Linux
        services relating to routing that were written to be only
        single processor support.
        Because of this, it was important to have the highest speed
        Ghz processor possible, since some critical services (the
        bottleneck) would share only 1 primary processor, regardless
        of how many processors were in the router.
        In past experience specific to Mikrotiktik, I often ran into
        issues with added features (firewall rules, Queues, etc)
        drastically draining the processing power of a MT router
        slowing throughput way below the theoretical published port
        throughput.
        For example, can Queues or Firewalls spread multiple processors?
        Can these 36core units handle bandwdith management (Limiting
        or Queues) for high speed subscribers, such as 100mb and 200
        mbps customers?
        In the GUI of v6.7, I dont see anything higher than 2mb or
        10mb depending on location of parameter.
        Tom DeReggi
        RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
        301-515-7774 <tel:301-515-7774>
        IntAirNet - Fixed Wireless Broadband


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