Yea, but the power levels of some are not likely usable in an outdoor WISP
environment.
A good explanation is at Wikipedia strange enough...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII

People running equipment in frequencies at a power level higher than
intended is the issue.  Also, the 5470-5725 band requires DFS.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Art Stephens <[email protected]> wrote:

> 5265-5320
> 5500-5580
> 5660-5700
> 5735-5840
>
> Are these not USA channels?
> If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
>> Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
>>
>>
>> I'm going to agree with others...
>>
>> Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
>> like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
>> about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
>> than to exceed the limits.
>>
>> I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
>> should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
>> experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
>> tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
>> over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
>> than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.
>>
>> Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all
>> either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator
>> like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the
>> FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the
>> rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.
>>
>> I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
>> understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
>> operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
>> drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.
>>
>> In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
>> reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
>> On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, "Art Stephens" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
>>> these frequencies.
>>> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
>>> platform.
>>> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
>>> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
>>> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
>>> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
>>> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess
>>> with it.
>>> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
>>> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
>>> 5170-5875.
>>>
>>> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
>>> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
>>> wisps and consumers.
>>>
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