Obey regs shouldn't narrow any frequencies. It only limits power. Your 
frequency availability is limited by the country code lock. 

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On Feb 12, 2014, at 17:35, Fred Goldstein <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2/11/2014 6:18 PM, Art Stephens wrote:
>> 5265-5320
>> 5500-5580
>> 5660-5700
>> 5735-5840
>> 
>> Are these not USA channels?
>> If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.
> 
> Yes, if your radio is type-approved for 15.407 with DFS.  Otherwise only the 
> latter block, which can be type-approved under 15.247 and doesn't use DFS.  
> The first three blocks are UNII-2, which requires DFS. And of course the 
> power limit there is lower.
> 
> AFAIK no MikroTik radios can legally use the DFS frequencies.  UBNT has it 
> approved on at least some models as of AirOS 5.5.2.  I have however seen 
> "professional installers" put up MikroTik radios on, uh, unapproved 
> frequencies.  I don't know if any UBNT radios block operation even if they 
> are up to rev.  Ticking off "obey regulatory rules" on a v5.3 radio certainly 
> does narrow the frequency choices... anybody have an up-to-rev one handy?
> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>> 
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
>>> Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm going to agree with others...
>>> 
>>> Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds 
>>> like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining 
>>> about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use 
>>> than to exceed the limits.
>>> 
>>> I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they 
>>> should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My 
>>> experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific 
>>> tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed 
>>> over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf 
>>> than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.
>>> 
>>> Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all either 
>>> dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you 
>>> are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which 
>>> is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules.  Which 
>>> makes us a bit grumpy.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better 
>>> understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your 
>>> operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd 
>>> drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.
>>> 
>>> In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you 
>>> reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, "Art Stephens" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of 
>>>> these frequencies.
>>>> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that 
>>>> platform.
>>>> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 
>>>> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 
>>>> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
>>>> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
>>>> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with 
>>>> it.
>>>> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
>>>> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
>>>> 5170-5875.
>>>> 
>>>> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more 
>>>> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both 
>>>> wisps and consumers.
> 
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