Thanks a bunch! So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that just best you could do with the integrated antenna model?
Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so what's the minimum isolation? If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have towers with four backhauls already and I would like some more in other directions. Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how hard is that number. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released Mike, Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation capacities for the group. For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get us to that performance. No magic pixie dust, just great technology. Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple clients. We’re on public record about the work that we’re doing with our partner Quantenna on their next generation technology they’ve announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust! Cheers! Jaime Fink • Mimosa • Chief Product Officer 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > wrote: >From a TechCrunch article: The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple radios are using the same channel. Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, that's pretty amazing. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Goldstein" < fgoldst...@ionary.com > To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: <blockquote> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was my thought also.. I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on demand. If traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't be on the air very much of the time. So it doesn't need the frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban links and share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill performance, at least for the type of moderate load applications (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz. We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During the storm last week that brought a tornado just a few subway stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz links for time. The rainfall was off the charts for the second time in a month. But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or even some indoor access points that use more power than necessary. (We put a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to pick up WLANs inside office towers four miles away.) And they are petitioning the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, like 3650). <blockquote> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes < mhop...@indigowireless.com > wrote: <blockquote> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? AF5 + Mimosa.... Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Have to give them credit on the website. 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