What are you "what"ing? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> 
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released 

Wait... whut? 


Matt Hoppes 
Director of Information Technology 
Indigo Wireless 
+1 (570) 723-7312 

On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 
> Jamie, 
> 
> We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;) 
> 
> Josh Reynolds, CIO 
> SPITwSPOTS 
> www.spitwspots.com 
> 
> On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote: 
>> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the 
>> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, 
>> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max performance. 
>> 
>> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up 
>> of course in different channels, and channel widths. 
>> 
>> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our cloud tools that 
>> automates those answers for you based on your radio location link 
>> plans, coming soon! 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Jaime 
>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Thanks a bunch! 
>>> 
>>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that 
>>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna model? 
>>> 
>>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so 
>>> what's the minimum isolation? 
>>> 
>>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 
>>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have 
>>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like some more in 
>>> other directions. 
>>> 
>>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how 
>>> hard is that number. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released 
>>> 
>>> Mike, 
>>> 
>>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation 
>>> capacities for the group. 
>>> 
>>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate 
>>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same 
>>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages 
>>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. 
>>> 
>>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture 
>>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out 
>>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get us to that 
>>> performance. 
>>> 
>>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology. 
>>> 
>>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I 
>>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for 
>>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple 
>>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that we’re doing with 
>>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation technology they’ve 
>>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of 
>>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust! 
>>> 
>>> Cheers! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer* 
>>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co 
>>> <http://www.mimosa.co> 
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>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> >From a TechCrunch article: 
>>> 
>>> The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses 
>>> multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide 
>>> up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple radios are 
>>> using the same channel. 
>>> 
>>> Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, 
>>> that's pretty amazing. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>> *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released 
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was 
>>> my thought also.. 
>>> I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I 
>>> can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new 
>>> radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of 
>>> these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on demand. If 
>>> traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't 
>>> be on the air very much of the time. So it doesn't need the 
>>> frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban links and 
>>> share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable 
>>> WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill 
>>> performance, at least for the type of moderate load applications 
>>> (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz. 
>>> 
>>> We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is 
>>> sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During 
>>> the storm last week that brought a tornado just a few subway 
>>> stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz links for time. 
>>> The rainfall was off the charts for the second time in a month. 
>>> But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. 
>>> 
>>> Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose 
>>> narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce 
>>> a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or even some 
>>> indoor access points that use more power than necessary. (We put 
>>> a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to pick up WLANs 
>>> inside office towers four miles away.) And they are petitioning 
>>> the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, like 3650). 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? 
>>> 
>>> AF5 + Mimosa.... 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matt Hoppes 
>>> Director of Information Technology 
>>> Indigo Wireless 
>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: 
>>> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author 
>>> of "Learn 
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>>> > 
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>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > *From:*[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] 
>>> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini 
>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM 
>>> > *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Gino A. Villarini 
>>> > 
>>> > President 
>>> > 
>>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
>>> > 
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