The PtMP.
Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > What are you "what"ing? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released > > Wait... whut? > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> Jamie, >> >> We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;) >> >> Josh Reynolds, CIO >> SPITwSPOTS >> www.spitwspots.com >> >> On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote: >>> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the >>> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, >>> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max > performance. >>> >>> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up >>> of course in different channels, and channel widths. >>> >>> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our cloud tools that >>> automates those answers for you based on your radio location link >>> plans, coming soon! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Jaime >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net >>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>> >>>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that >>>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna model? >>>> >>>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so >>>> what's the minimum isolation? >>>> >>>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 >>>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have >>>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like some more in >>>> other directions. >>>> >>>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how >>>> hard is that number. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co <mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> >>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org >>>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation >>>> capacities for the group. >>>> >>>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate >>>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same >>>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages >>>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. >>>> >>>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture >>>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out >>>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get us to that >>>> performance. >>>> >>>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology. >>>> >>>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I >>>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for >>>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple >>>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that we’re doing with >>>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation technology they’ve >>>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of >>>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust! >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> >>>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer* >>>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co >>>> <http://www.mimosa.co> >>>> >>>> This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the >>>> sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution >>>> or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the >>>> intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), >>>> please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of >>>> this message. >>>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net >>>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >From a TechCrunch article: >>>> >>>> The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses >>>> multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide >>>> up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple radios are >>>> using the same channel. >>>> >>>> Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, >>>> that's pretty amazing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com >>>> <mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>> >>>> *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>> >>>> On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: >>>> >>>> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was >>>> my thought also.. >>>> I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I >>>> can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. >>>> >>>> >>>> The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new >>>> radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of >>>> these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on demand. If >>>> traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't >>>> be on the air very much of the time. So it doesn't need the >>>> frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban links and >>>> share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable >>>> WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill >>>> performance, at least for the type of moderate load applications >>>> (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz. >>>> >>>> We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is >>>> sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During >>>> the storm last week that brought a tornado just a few subway >>>> stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz links for time. >>>> The rainfall was off the charts for the second time in a month. >>>> But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. >>>> >>>> Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose >>>> narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce >>>> a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or even some >>>> indoor access points that use more power than necessary. (We put >>>> a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to pick up WLANs >>>> inside office towers four miles away.) And they are petitioning >>>> the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, like > 3650). >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes >>>> <mhop...@indigowireless.com >>>> <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? >>>> >>>> AF5 + Mimosa.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Hoppes >>>> Director of Information Technology >>>> Indigo Wireless >>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312> >>>> >>>> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >>>> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author >>>> of "Learn >>>> > RouterOS- Second Edition >>>> > <http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm>” >>>> > >>>> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support >>>> > Services >>>> > >>>> > Office*: 314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270> >>>> <tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>> *Website*: >>>> > http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – *Skype*: >>>> > linktechs >>>> > <skype:linktechs?call> >>>> > */ /**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with >>>> /*www.towercoverage.com <http://www.towercoverage.com/> >>>> > <http://www.towercoverage.com/>*//*/–*900Mhz – LTE – 3G >>>> – 3.65 – TV >>>> > Whitespace */ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> >>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] >>>> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM >>>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>>> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Gino A. 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