You're... out of the loop. Josh Reynolds, CIO SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 12:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > The PtMP. > > > Matt Hoppes > Director of Information Technology > Indigo Wireless > +1 (570) 723-7312 > > On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> What are you "what"ing? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >> >> Wait... whut? >> >> >> Matt Hoppes >> Director of Information Technology >> Indigo Wireless >> +1 (570) 723-7312 >> >> On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> Jamie, >>> >>> We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;) >>> >>> Josh Reynolds, CIO >>> SPITwSPOTS >>> www.spitwspots.com >>> >>> On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote: >>>> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the >>>> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, >>>> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max >> performance. >>>> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up >>>> of course in different channels, and channel widths. >>>> >>>> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our cloud tools that >>>> automates those answers for you based on your radio location link >>>> plans, coming soon! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Jaime >>>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net >>>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>> >>>>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that >>>>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna model? >>>>> >>>>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so >>>>> what's the minimum isolation? >>>>> >>>>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 >>>>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have >>>>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like some more in >>>>> other directions. >>>>> >>>>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how >>>>> hard is that number. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co <mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> >>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org >>>>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>>> >>>>> Mike, >>>>> >>>>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation >>>>> capacities for the group. >>>>> >>>>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate >>>>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same >>>>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages >>>>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. >>>>> >>>>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture >>>>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out >>>>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get us to that >>>>> performance. >>>>> >>>>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology. >>>>> >>>>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I >>>>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for >>>>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple >>>>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that we’re doing with >>>>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation technology they’ve >>>>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of >>>>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer* >>>>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co >>>>> <http://www.mimosa.co> >>>>> >>>>> This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the >>>>> sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution >>>>> or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the >>>>> intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), >>>>> please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of >>>>> this message. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net >>>>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >From a TechCrunch article: >>>>> >>>>> The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses >>>>> multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide >>>>> up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple radios are >>>>> using the same channel. >>>>> >>>>> Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, >>>>> that's pretty amazing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com >>>>> <mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>> >>>>> *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>>> >>>>> On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was >>>>> my thought also.. >>>>> I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I >>>>> can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new >>>>> radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of >>>>> these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on demand. If >>>>> traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't >>>>> be on the air very much of the time. So it doesn't need the >>>>> frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban links and >>>>> share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable >>>>> WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill >>>>> performance, at least for the type of moderate load applications >>>>> (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz. >>>>> >>>>> We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is >>>>> sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During >>>>> the storm last week that brought a tornado just a few subway >>>>> stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz links for time. >>>>> The rainfall was off the charts for the second time in a month. >>>>> But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. >>>>> >>>>> Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose >>>>> narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce >>>>> a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or even some >>>>> indoor access points that use more power than necessary. (We put >>>>> a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to pick up WLANs >>>>> inside office towers four miles away.) And they are petitioning >>>>> the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, like >> 3650). >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes >>>>> <mhop...@indigowireless.com >>>>> <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? >>>>> >>>>> AF5 + Mimosa.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matt Hoppes >>>>> Director of Information Technology >>>>> Indigo Wireless >>>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >>>>> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author >>>>> of "Learn >>>>> > RouterOS- Second Edition >>>>> > <http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm>” >>>>> > >>>>> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support >>>>> > Services >>>>> > >>>>> > Office*: 314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270> >>>>> <tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>> *Website*: >>>>> > http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – *Skype*: >>>>> > linktechs >>>>> > <skype:linktechs?call> >>>>> > */ /**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with >>>>> /*www.towercoverage.com <http://www.towercoverage.com/> >>>>> > <http://www.towercoverage.com/>*//*/–*900Mhz – LTE – 3G >>>>> – 3.65 – TV >>>>> > Whitespace */ >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> >>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] >>>>> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM >>>>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>>>> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Gino A. 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