Re Len's comment about charts, we are finalizing a piece of code
specifically for Witango users on all platforms.  We call it SpitfireCharts
and you can find all the details at www.spitfirecharts.com

It is a server-side, Java-based charting solution that serves up GIFs of all
sorts to client browsers (ie - it does not generate the chart on the client
side).  You implement it by using a custom meta-tag.

It includes multiple levels of drill-down capabilities and textual links for
access by persons with disabilities (required for US Govt sites ...
reference Section 508 - Persons With Disabilities Act).

Pie charts, bar charts, 3-D everything, hi-low charts for stock movement
presentation ... on and on.  The full version comes with 76 possible chart
types and can return the results directly to the screen for unique,
user-based/private info ... or write them to the server's hard drive, to be
viewed by multiple users.

It comes with an extensive set of developer documentation.

At the risk of being flamed, I'll mention the price, because it is *very*
cost-competitive, if you are considering Crystal Reports.  A SpitfireCharts
Developer Workstation runs $49.  A stripped-down server license is $99.  A
server license that has all the above features and chart types runs $279.

We are in our final beta testing phase and will be releasing the product
shortly (there are currently no bugs on our to-do list, but we're waiting
for some feedback from some key Witango users ... I figure we'll be released
within two weeks, max).

For anyone who may be offended by this plug, please know that the
SpitfireCharts product and this note are both  intended to form one more
plank in our collective progress to make Witango an even more compelling
choice overall.  If you use Witango and need charts, this is as competitive
and full-featured of a solution that you'll find.

If interested, please contact me offline.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Len Wright

Ian Danials from New Creation Consulting has been developing a product
called Spitfire Charts. It's an add-in to Witango that provides a complete
charting solution with a single custom tag. It looks very cool.

I am sure Ian can provide more info for you.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Lockwood"

> Len,
>
> >In my experience, Witango does everything Crystal can do,
> >and with more control, faster reporting, faster design,
>
> This blows me away!  I currently do allot of reports through Witango, but
I
> "thought" Crystal was an easier and more eloquent solution.  (Shows my
lack
> of Crystal experience!)
>
> I'm very happy with your answer, I was just trying to offer the "best"
> solution.
>
> Only one more thing, if graphs and charts are required, what then?
>
> Chuck Lockwood
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> 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428
> Phone: 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Wright
>
> I'll  give this one a go - our company is a reseller of accounting
software
> (Microsoft Great Plains, Accpac, Adagio). They all use Crystal Reports for
> reporting. I have been a reseller of Crystal products for 12 years. They
are
> a great company, and a pleasure to deal with.
>
> Crystal reports can read data from any database that supports ODBC. So if
> your Witango application uses MS-SQL, Pervasive, or something similar you
> can read the data using the Crystal Reports Designer.
>
> Crystal Report Proffesional will allow you to design your report and
compile
> it so the user can run it using the runtime engine without the Crystal
> Reports designer being installed.
>
> (I have written some of these types of reports to deploy over the web, but
> gave up on it because Witango was easier and faster to deliver the same
> report.)
>
> For adhoc reporting, you can define run-time parameters that the user
fills
> out when they run the report. This is best when the user wants to run a
> report and must enter values for say, the begining and ending dates.
>
> In my twelve years experience with training accounting staff how to use
> these tools, I can say that most users (99.99%) never get to the stage
where
> they can build their own report from scratch. It's too complicated for
them
> to figure out the concept of a relational database.
>
> Crystal Enterprise Server *should* co-exists with the Witango server on
the
> same box, but of course you should test it first.
>
> If I may, can I ask what is it that you think Crystal Reports can do that
> Witango can't do? In my experience, Witango does everything Crystal can
do,
> and with more control, faster reporting, faster design, and of course
> seemless integration into your application.
>
> Don't get me wrong, Crystal Reports is great, but for a site  that already
> has Witango, Crystal is redundant, IMHO.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Lockwood" >
>
> > Crystal product / pricing is anything but clear to me, so maybe someone
> > could shed some light.
> > (Blue, green or red hopefully, currently its all black!)
> >
> > What Crystal products would I need to purchase to accomplish the
> following:
> >
> > Offer Crystal reporting integrated with a Witango app on 3 separate
> > intranets.
> > I would develop most reports, but,
> > What if they wanted the ability to do simple Adhoc reporting?  Do they
> need
> > to purchase additional licenses?
> >
> > Does Crystal coexist with Witango Server?
> >
> > As usual, all responses appreciated!
> >
> > Chuck Lockwood

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