This looks impressive and a bargain at this pricing, Ian.
For WiTango developers it looks like a must-have add-on.
Garth

At 11:47  29/07/02 -0700, you wrote:

>Re Len's comment about charts, we are finalizing a piece of code
>specifically for Witango users on all platforms.  We call it SpitfireCharts
>and you can find all the details at www.spitfirecharts.com
>
>It is a server-side, Java-based charting solution that serves up GIFs of all
>sorts to client browsers (ie - it does not generate the chart on the client
>side).  You implement it by using a custom meta-tag.
>
>It includes multiple levels of drill-down capabilities and textual links for
>access by persons with disabilities (required for US Govt sites ...
>reference Section 508 - Persons With Disabilities Act).
>
>Pie charts, bar charts, 3-D everything, hi-low charts for stock movement
>presentation ... on and on.  The full version comes with 76 possible chart
>types and can return the results directly to the screen for unique,
>user-based/private info ... or write them to the server's hard drive, to be
>viewed by multiple users.
>
>It comes with an extensive set of developer documentation.
>
>At the risk of being flamed, I'll mention the price, because it is *very*
>cost-competitive, if you are considering Crystal Reports.  A SpitfireCharts
>Developer Workstation runs $49.  A stripped-down server license is $99.  A
>server license that has all the above features and chart types runs $279.
>
>We are in our final beta testing phase and will be releasing the product
>shortly (there are currently no bugs on our to-do list, but we're waiting
>for some feedback from some key Witango users ... I figure we'll be released
>within two weeks, max).
>
>For anyone who may be offended by this plug, please know that the
>SpitfireCharts product and this note are both  intended to form one more
>plank in our collective progress to make Witango an even more compelling
>choice overall.  If you use Witango and need charts, this is as competitive
>and full-featured of a solution that you'll find.
>
>If interested, please contact me offline.
>
>Ian
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Len Wright
>
>Ian Danials from New Creation Consulting has been developing a product
>called Spitfire Charts. It's an add-in to Witango that provides a complete
>charting solution with a single custom tag. It looks very cool.
>
>I am sure Ian can provide more info for you.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chuck Lockwood"
>
> > Len,
> >
> > >In my experience, Witango does everything Crystal can do,
> > >and with more control, faster reporting, faster design,
> >
> > This blows me away!  I currently do allot of reports through Witango, but
>I
> > "thought" Crystal was an easier and more eloquent solution.  (Shows my
>lack
> > of Crystal experience!)
> >
> > I'm very happy with your answer, I was just trying to offer the "best"
> > solution.
> >
> > Only one more thing, if graphs and charts are required, what then?
> >
> > Chuck Lockwood
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > LockData Technologies, Inc.
> > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428
> > Phone: 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.lockdata.com
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Len Wright
> >
> > I'll  give this one a go - our company is a reseller of accounting
>software
> > (Microsoft Great Plains, Accpac, Adagio). They all use Crystal Reports for
> > reporting. I have been a reseller of Crystal products for 12 years. They
>are
> > a great company, and a pleasure to deal with.
> >
> > Crystal reports can read data from any database that supports ODBC. So if
> > your Witango application uses MS-SQL, Pervasive, or something similar you
> > can read the data using the Crystal Reports Designer.
> >
> > Crystal Report Proffesional will allow you to design your report and
>compile
> > it so the user can run it using the runtime engine without the Crystal
> > Reports designer being installed.
> >
> > (I have written some of these types of reports to deploy over the web, but
> > gave up on it because Witango was easier and faster to deliver the same
> > report.)
> >
> > For adhoc reporting, you can define run-time parameters that the user
>fills
> > out when they run the report. This is best when the user wants to run a
> > report and must enter values for say, the begining and ending dates.
> >
> > In my twelve years experience with training accounting staff how to use
> > these tools, I can say that most users (99.99%) never get to the stage
>where
> > they can build their own report from scratch. It's too complicated for
>them
> > to figure out the concept of a relational database.
> >
> > Crystal Enterprise Server *should* co-exists with the Witango server on
>the
> > same box, but of course you should test it first.
> >
> > If I may, can I ask what is it that you think Crystal Reports can do that
> > Witango can't do? In my experience, Witango does everything Crystal can
>do,
> > and with more control, faster reporting, faster design, and of course
> > seemless integration into your application.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, Crystal Reports is great, but for a site  that already
> > has Witango, Crystal is redundant, IMHO.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck Lockwood" >
> >
> > > Crystal product / pricing is anything but clear to me, so maybe someone
> > > could shed some light.
> > > (Blue, green or red hopefully, currently its all black!)
> > >
> > > What Crystal products would I need to purchase to accomplish the
> > following:
> > >
> > > Offer Crystal reporting integrated with a Witango app on 3 separate
> > > intranets.
> > > I would develop most reports, but,
> > > What if they wanted the ability to do simple Adhoc reporting?  Do they
> > need
> > > to purchase additional licenses?
> > >
> > > Does Crystal coexist with Witango Server?
> > >
> > > As usual, all responses appreciated!
> > >
> > > Chuck Lockwood
>
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