I never said it wasn't with the rights of the ISP, I said change ISPs
because other have no problem with this.

When I relay for my clients, My mail server checks the actual
connections IP not an address from a spoofable header.

Yes the hosts file is where you can spoof I mean setup your domain to IP
link

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Conlon
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Tango Sending Email...

I disagree.  The ISP is absolutely within its rights to only relay mail 
from within its NETBLOCK. 

Although Robert Shubert's statement that the server should have a static

address is correct; it's irrelevant.  The Tango server is apparently 
firewalled (or at least NAT'ed) and is presenting a private address,
such 
as 192.xxx.xxx.xxx.  How can the ISP accept mail from this address 
without opening a relay for anyone on a private network?

I believe you can create a host file entry on the app server, so when 
Tango comes up, it resolves to a name within your domain.  This should
do 
the trick.

>I agree totally here, I do it for my clients also.
>If your ISPs email software can't handle it find another ISP
>
>Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
>Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm 
>Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Shubert
>Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:35 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Tango Sending Email...
>
>David,
>
>This does make 'sense' although the terms seem a little off. Your Tango
>Server should have a static IP, and therefore your ISP should simply
>install that IP as valid relay. The reason they are seeing the error
>they are is probably due to the lack of proper reverse-DNS setting for
>your Tango server IP. As I just said though, they should simply allow
>the IP. It's standard practice and I do it all the time for clients.
>
>Robert Shubert
>Tronics
>
>David Green wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I've got kind of a 'deep' problem here.  I've used Tango to send
>emails
>> for the last 4 years.  Never had a problem.  I've always used my ISP
>as
>> my smtp server.  They made some changes recently to not allow
>spammers.
>> In these changes, they've also blocked me.  This has nothing to do
>with
>> any blacklist or open-relay issues.  Yes... I'm sure.
>> 
>> Here's where it gets weird... my ISP is telling me that at the
>beginning
>> of the SMTP connection Tango sends a HELO statement.  They say
>normally,
>> that is followed by the name of the machine.  Tango is instead
sending
>> it's internal ip address which isn't owned by the ISP so they reject
>the
>> email.
>> 
>> Does that make sense to anyone?  So I guess my question is, why
>doesn't
>> Tango send the machine name instead of it's ip?  And, obviously, is
>> there anyway I can change this?
>> 
>> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> David Green
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Systems InSight, Inc.
>> http://www.systemsinsight.com
>>
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