Sorry, it is my understanding that by using the software that is provided by a third party vendor, you are not liable for the fees associated with generating images using this software.
For example, by using Photoshop to make JPEG files, I am abstracted from the requirement of paying the licensing fee, I simply pay my fee to Adobe. If I use WebPic, I am not required to pay a fee for any JPEG that I create using this software only for the software. I am an end consumer of this software, not a vendor of it and therefore not liable. If I were to distribute a software product that uses WebPic at its core, I would then be liable to pay them a licensing fee. If they are not licensed to use JPEG files, that could cause issues I would imagine but not directly to me. Your thoughts? p. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue It is not someone elses problem. I have the responsibility to make sure the tools I use are licensed. And if I am on the radar, I am sure these other tools will be, sooner or later. If you think that I wrote my own JPEG compression algorithm, then thanks for the compliment. You think I am a better programmer than I am! http://news.com.com/Do+you+own+everything+in+your+software+portfolio/ 2010-1071_3-5794276.html?part=rss&tag=5794276&subj=news -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Peter Dobbs wrote: > Why don't you use a simple COM object that handles this for you and > absolve > yourself of the problem altogether? > > I use one called WebPic. http://www.softuarium.com/item.php?id=40 > > But there are TONS out there. See: www.componentsource.com > > Let the licensing issue be someone else's problem. > > p. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue > > if it's any help, if you were forced to say "all photos must be png > format", an upside to using PNG is that it is lossless compression, > whereas jpg is lossy. > > You might be able to get away with saying "to preserve image quality, > please use PNG compression" or soemthing like that > > hope that helps in some small way, bummer to hear abotu your plight > > On 7/20/05, Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am doing the research, and looking carefully at the Unisys/gif >> issue for education. >> >> I can use PNG in some of my apps, and I love the PNG format, for the >> most part, but I can't get around I have to use JPEGs to show >> photographer's images online. PNG just doesn't have complete support >> yet, and I also would have to investigate compression methods, and >> which were supported on which browsers. >> >> We are in the process of switching to JPEG2000 for transport, but I >> better make sure that won't violate anything. >> >> What does IANAL stand for? I am not a lawyer? Haven't seen that one. >> >> It is nice to be noticed, but not by the IRS, or some Patent lawyer! >> >> I always thought JPEG was royalty free, till seeing some news on the >> web about forgent this year. >> >> -- >> >> Robert Garcia >> President - BigHead Technology >> VP Application Development - eventpix.com >> 13653 West Park Dr >> Magalia, Ca 95954 >> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ >> >> On Jul 20, 2005, at 6:57 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: >> >> >>> Wow, that sux Robert, >>> >>> I would try to find a support group somewhere that is dealing with >>> this, at >>> least for advice. There must be one somewhere. >>> >>> I assume you've tried >>> >>> IANAL, but if it were me, I'd investigate switching wholesale to >>> some other >>> format like PNG. >>> >>> On the bright side, I guess you can say this is a measure of >>> success, simply >>> because you got noticed. >>> >>> Hope things work out. >>> >>> ~ Scott Cadillac >>> ~ 403-254-5002 >>> ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> ~ Custom Software for Business >>> http://custom.softwarefor.net >>> >>> ~ The XML-Extranet Partnership >>> ~ P.O. Box 69006 >>> RPO Bridlewood SW >>> Calgary, Alberta >>> Canada T2Y 4T9 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:09 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue >>>> >>>> I have been sent letters, and have been phoned about software >>>> that I >>>> have written that compresses images using JPEG format. They want >>>> percentages of revenue from the companies using the software. >>>> >>>> Some background info: >>>> >>>> http://www.shaftek.org/standardsblog/2005/04/27/the-never-endi >>>> >>>> >>> ng-jpeg- >>> >>> >>>> patent-saga/ >>>> >>>> http://www.forgent.com/ >>>> >>>> The company contacting me is Inavisis. >>>> >>>> I heard about Sony and Adobe buckling and paying the license, >>>> and MS >>>> and Apple fighting. I was wondering if anyone has done more >>>> research >>>> on this kind of thing, like the Unisys GIF issues before. >>>> >>>> I know, if the JPEG patent is valid, I am violating it by using >>>> open >>>> source JPEG libraries to compress images, like ImageMagick. But >>>> if I >>>> use calls to the host operating system, or an API like Quicktime, >>>> would I still be violating the patent? >>>> >>>> It has always been my understanding, if a library like Quicktime, >>>> allows me to save to a particular format, I am in compliance, cuz >>>> Quicktime has the responsibility of being in compliance with >>>> licenses. >>>> >>>> If anyone has any info, I think this is a good topic of discussion, >>>> cuz if I got on their radar, others will too. And then I >>>> guess I will >>>> have to write my own utilities for the webservers to manipulate >>>> images, using quicktime. My desktop software too. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Robert Garcia >>>> President - BigHead Technology >>>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com >>>> 13653 West Park Dr >>>> Magalia, Ca 95954 >>>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Robert Garcia >>>> President - BigHead Technology >>>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com >>>> 13653 West Park Dr >>>> Magalia, Ca 95954 >>>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> __________ >>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> __ >>> __ >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >>> >>> >>> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
