No, bagging the XHTML isn't the solution. It's really handy for autocomplete
and accessibility and keeping your form values when a user clicks the back
button.

However, this publicized bug in IE from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314279&Product=iep

Does give the resolution to work around the bug.

If it's accessibility you're going for, then the ALT tag is still your best
bet. To be bobby certified, you need ALT tags.
http://webxact.watchfire.com/
 
Rick 



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Radio button issue IE vs. Firefox

So Rick are you suggesting that we really need to bag the whole XHTML in
order to have full access across all browsers. If so that is a major concern
and we need to deal with it right away. What have others seen.


on 5/12/06 7:17, Rick Sanders at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey Scott,
> 
> I'm in agreement with you, the label feature is very handy. I use it most
of
> the time on my forms.
> 
> But, I've seen instances when the user has certain toolbars or spyware
that
> has stopped the browser from interpreting the label tag and other tags as
> well.
>  
> Rick 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 12:04 AM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Radio button issue IE vs. Firefox
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
>> Call me old-school, but removing the label and trailing / at
>> the end and
>> sticking with pure HTML is the best fool-proof way!
> 
> Correct use of <label> is the key.
> 
> This is one of my pet peeves of websites, when programmers don't use this
> very helpful (standard HTML) tag.
> 
> Disclaimer: My intranet-only laden comment is not directed at anyone in
> particular.
> 
> But come on folks, you have to admit <label> is one hell of a useful
> feature, eh?
>   
> 
> Scott Cadillac, 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://scott.cadillac.bz
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Radio button issue IE vs. Firefox
>> 
>> This always works:
>> 
>> Page declare:
>> 
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>
>> 
>> <td colspan="2">
>> <input name="address_type" type="radio" value="Home"
>> checked>Home &nbsp;
>> <input name="address_type" type="radio" value="Work">Business
>> </td>
>> 
>>  
>> Rick 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:33 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Radio button issue IE vs. Firefox
>> 
>> Makes sense but it does not work even with the change in syntax.
>> 
>> This is how it looks in view source now
>> 
>> <td colspan="2"><label>
>> <input name="address_type" type="radio" value="Home"
>> checked="checked" />
>>                           Home &nbsp;
>> 
>>                           <input name="address_type" type="radio"
>> value="Work" />
>>                           Business
>>                           </label></td>
>> 
>> It is late and it has been a frustrating day so maybe I just
>> am not seeing
>> it.
>> 
>> <tr align="left">
>>                           <td colspan="2"><label>
>>                             <input type="radio" name="address_type"
>> value="Home" checked="checked"  />
>>                           Home &nbsp;
>>                           <input type="radio"  name="address_type"
>> value="Work" />
>>                           Business
>>                           </label></td>
>>                         </tr>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William M Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Radio button issue IE vs. Firefox
>> 
>> Then Phil and I are right.
>> 
>> You MUST validate xhtml!!!
>> 
>> On May 11, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Dan Stein wrote:
>> 
>>> The definition is
>>> 
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
>>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 5/11/06 21:13, Phil Wade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dan,
>>>> It will depend on the HTML definition on the page but try:
>>>> 
>>>> <input type="radio" name="address_type"  value="Home"
>>>> checked="checked" />
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/05/2006, at 11:00 AM, Dan Stein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is strange
>>>>> 
>>>>>                                                 <tr align="left">
>>>>>                           <td colspan="2"><label>
>>>>>                             <input type="radio"
>>>>> name="address_type"  value="Home" checked />
>>>>>                           Home &nbsp;
>>>>>                           <input type="radio"
>>>>> name="address_type" value="Work" />
>>>>>                           Business
>>>>>                           </label></td>
>>>>>                         </tr>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Works just fine in IE
>>>>> 
>>>>> In firefox the radio button will not change from the checked one
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone seen this before
>>>>> 
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