Sheesh at this point I would be tempted to pay someone to take the totally worthless keys and toss them in Lake Ontario. What a waste of time.
Leo -----Original Message----- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: License Keys You could be right Stefan, I could have the circumstances backwards with regards to how the bitch-fest started. I defer to your better memory, thank you. Scott, On Sep-22-2009, at 5:09 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: > Hi Scott, > > I have been agreeing with everything that you written up until now. > I take > issue with the final part of your sentence. I do not believe that it > was the > "bitch-fest" that led Phil to stop answering posts in the first > place. I think > that it was Phil's lack of communication that started the bitch- > fest. I > think that you have the order backwards. > > Also, the bitch-fest has been quite legitimate and deserving of a > response. > Owners of a product that cared about the product would have responded > long ago. > > I still believe, as I have stated for a long time now, that Phil's > poor > communication tendencies started the final downfall of this product. > It was > his poor handling of Robert's announcement of leaving Witango due to > lack of > documentation that caused the beginning of a mass exodus of the > product. > This led to a rapid downward spiral... *sigh* It's a real shame. > > Phil has probably moved on to bigger and better things at this > point. It would > be responsible (and communicative) of Phil to let us know what's > going on. > That has not been Phil's forte, however. Hence, the bitch-fest. > > Stefan > > At 04:00 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote: >> Some good points Rick, >> >> But I think the number of years Tango has been struggling as a >> product >> is just as wide open to personal interpretation as who started the >> bitch-fest that led Phil to stop answering Posts in the first place. >> >> Scott, >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep-22-2009, at 4:37 PM, Rick Sanders wrote: >> >>> I disagree with the first and second paragraphs. When With took over >>> WiTango >>> they made many promises. They promised continued support, new >>> versions, a >>> better distribution infrastructure, more market awareness..... >>> As developers this was good news. As business people we go by what >>> other >>> people say and take their word. So, the writing has not been on the >>> wall for >>> 9 years, but definitely in the last 2. >>> >>> If the product is in fact dead or dropped, then they should come out >>> and say >>> so instead of not saying anything at all leaving false hope. At >>> least tell >>> people to move on. Although many people were upset when Visual >>> studio was >>> first released and VB developers would have to learn new ways of >>> developing >>> applications and re-writing applications, at least Microsoft came >>> out and >>> told people VB is no longer supported and you have to learn .net. >>> WiTango >>> should do the same in my opinion. >>> >>> No, Phil and Sophie don't need to respond to threats or insults. I >>> totally >>> agree. But, maybe they should recognize why they are getting threats >>> and >>> insults and address the issue of WiTango. >>> >>> >>> [------------------------------------------ Scott Wrote: >>> -------------------------------------------] >>> >>> The writing has been on the wall for 9 years - 9 YEARS [one more and >>> it'll >>> be 10!], so if people feel they have been burned by Phil... >>> well, that's what happens when you can't stop yourself from >>> gambling. >>> Eventually you lose. >>> >>> As for who started the unprofessional death-spiral, I think fingers >>> can be >>> pointed in a lot of directions that don't necessarily take you >>> down- under. >>> >>> I haven't had personal correspondence with Phil or Sophie in over >>> 3 or >>> 4 years I think, so I have no idea what they're up to, but I don't >>> blame >>> them one bit for not answering the threats or insults that come from >>> some >>> people on this List. >>> >>> [--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -----------------------] >>> >>> Rick Sanders >>> Webenergy >>> Canada: 902-431-7279 >>> USA: 919-799-9076 >>> Canada: www.webenergy.ca >>> USA: www.webenergyusa.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > ===================================================== > Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration > http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf -- ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
