On 30/10/13 Charles Philip Chan said:

> First of all you need to get a handle on NeXTstep. Here is a good intro:
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20061020203358/http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/

K, thanks.

> Wow, the Debian packages are real old and outdated! These 2 apps are
> obsolete.

I tried to build the latest, the build failed, and I was told to use the
Debian packages. I sense an infinite loop here. :)

> You well need to have an appwrapper for the app and have it
> installed. Once you have done that you will see the app in the "Tools
> Inspector" of the file. You can set a default app in that inspector.

You'd think a default app wrapper that does something intelligent would be a
basic requirement of this framework.

> The gvim appwrapper that I send you have py as a filetype. Did you
> install it?

Not yet, I'm trying to understand how a new user would ever get this far
without simply giving up and moving to Gnome or KDE. I'm not trying to offend,
but the environment is hardly friendly to the new user, even one like myself
who's used *nix for decades. It's not exactly out-of-the-box friendly, and
that's likely due to the Debian packaging. Unfortunately I couldn't get the
source packages to build.

With Nautilus in Gnome (bloatware, granted) you can simply associated .py
files to open in Vim with a simple right-click. Something to think about
there.

> Again the Debian packages are ancient.

And I seem to be stuck with them...

> You use one or the other. In Window Maker I prefer Window Maker's dock.

Ah, ok. 

> Charles
> 
> P.S.: I will send you a tarball of some X apps that I personally use to
> get you started.

Great, thanks. I'm tired of bloated desktop environments, and I appreciate
some of the NextStep API from Mac, so I thought I'd delve deep into GNUstep
and WindowMaker, but it looks like I'm a victim of poor Debian package
maintenance.

That said, I'm using WM at work right now with two displays, and it's so much
faster than KDE on the same box that I can't imagine going back. Maybe until I
want to mount a USB stick without a shell command...

Mike

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