[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Tonico, hello list,


Is it just fashionable to use <ul>s for navigation? Which standard says
that a navigation should be a list?
Who benefits from more semantic /navigation/?


Well, some say: a navigation semantically is a list, others say: it's not. (I also think, it's a list and semantic markup is a part of webstandards, not of fashion).

Example for a navigation that is not a list: <http://www.w3.org/>

I guess they don't use lists for the top navigation because it is horizontal and they want to keep it simple.

But IMHO the deciding advantage is: subnavigations, that are nested in li are read out (as nested) in some Screenreaders (f.e. Jaws, unfortunately not HPR). So in my opinion, in (semantic) theorie and (assistive) practice we should use lists.

I agree with you in theory.


I also had hard problems with horizontal menus including subnavigation and gave up. But as we have an example, that it works, it's only one time too learn it and the hard times are over :-)

I've learned a lot in the past (still learning), but the hard times are not over until most user agents have better support for standards.


Last night I've coded such a menu:
  <http://www.webproducer.at/lab/nested-ul-tabs>

It works fine, except in IE/Mac. I have posted the issue to css-d but haven't received any reply so far.

I need to support IE/Mac, so what would you recommend me to do?

Tonico

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