I never meant to actually complain about anyone on the list or the list itself, I apologise to anyone I've offended who may think I'm pointing at them. I simply meant to point in the direction of what I see as a bad practise of pushing the right wheelbarrow the wrong way. I know the companies I've had anything to do with move slowly and cautiously and can be scared away quite easily with new ideas. Only after a year to two years am I getting a bit of response back indicating they've actually changed their ways, and the same for local web design firms. But trying to bully them into change isn't the way to get them to do anything. They make money already and don't need me. They tend to slowly absorb what I say and echo it back months later as their own after they've privately done some homework.

But no I wasn't complaining about list members or posts in themselves, sorry. Its good to have a wide variety of ideas in any forum environment to maintain valid and balanced views. God help us all if we all thought like me, for instance.

Steven Clark
Norty Pig Web Development
http://www.nortypig.com
http://www.blog.nortypig.com

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