Perhaps you're right that an ordered list is not the right list to
choose, as it will be chunked and split across pages, however the
scenario is such that:

* a collection of images may contain thousands of items
* the collection is the highest level in the heirachy and so needs a
"finding aid" in some way to access items within the collection and to
describe relationships that may not be possible at lower levels (not
worth going into, needless to say that there are complex relationships
between items particularly in manuscript collections)
* the way that's been selected is to show a thumbnail icon and the title
or some descriptive metadata
(similar to search results pages on the site:
http://www.musicaustralia.org)
* list of items/images (including file sizes) would be too long that our
usability tests (and commonsense) shows that users are just unable to
scroll through thousands of items - hence chunking is necesssary
* while there is a fairly indepth persistent identification naming
scheme for image files, again it harks back to the relationships that
can't be expressed via the naming scheme and the need to build these
content list pages as a way for users to view large collections

perhaps I'll roll this page back to XHTML transitional so start can be
used, but am hesitant to begin by knowingly working with things that
aren't "the way forward" so to speak.

Thanks
Somaya


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Tan
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:29 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1


Chris Kennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can someone explain why this incredibly useful attribute:
>>> <ol>
>>>   <li value=40></li>
>  is deprecated, or is it?

It is depreciated ( http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html)
although 
it is not obselete therefore will still be supported for backward 
compatibility.

One possible reason could be that it completely destroys the semantics
of an 
ordered list by allowing it to be broken up.

I'm curious about the function of the list - does the numbering describe
the 
images to make them meaningful in some way? An ordered list spread over 
multiple URIs strikes me as wrong as the list portion referenced by an 
individual URI may have less meaning when dislocated from other portions
of 
the list. Something like spreading a library index over different 
rooms[files] in the building[domain]. Is there a reason apart from file
size 
/ download time that this list should be spread over multiple pages? I 
assume the archive is huge but if its just a contents list page then 
wouldn't it be hypertext with anchors for blocks and meaningful URIs for

each image? I assume the library has some kind of tagging system or
category 
system to classify images so access to groups of images themselves is 
achieved through that?

Jon Tan
www.gr0w.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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