On 12/16/05, Duckworth, Nigel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The idea that table based designs look like something from 1998 is > ridiculous.
You are generalizing what was a very specific comment. What we call a 1998 design is 2 or 3 columns, equal height, every column a different color. The key is the columns being different colors. It was very typical in 1998, and looks retro now. Many of us are just tired of seeing it. Obviously you can't make a distinction between table and css designs, because css can do everything ever done with tables and then some. > I've seen a lot excellent visual design which is implemented > in table form (some well others not so well). On the other hand some of > what passes for "design" on this list may be great in terms of standards > and accessibility but is laughable in terms of visual design. The point > being, neither method has the monopoly on good design, certainly not CSS > which has more than its fair share of bland cookie-cutter sites. This may be true, but there is one big difference between an ugly table based site and an ugly pure css site: the ugly css site is bad for one reason, while the ugly table based site is bad for two. I would rather have an ugly pure css site than an ugly table one. At least the CSS based one is lighter and easy to maintain, and most likely it's semantic too. > As it happens I've only built 1 table based site this year and I > have no shame and no regrets, the site brings in millions of dollars a > year. Maybe, but a site's success is hardly ever due to it's appearance. What it offers to users, and how usable it is, is far more important than the pretty headers. I don't know what your site does but I doubt anyone would attribute it's success to the markup. You might be losing some money here and there on the server load for a few extra tags in the markup, but you obviously don't feel that when you are making millions. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
