Terrence.

Plus I don't want to get into the quirks of clients in this thread, I'd like to concentrate on finding a solution to a real problem that is as reliable (browser-wise) and as easy to implement as it is with a table,

Sure... clients who needs them? But see the real problem is clients making design decisions that may not be appropriate for the shape of the market today (and tomorrow). And given that they aren't designers... how can they make effective design decisions, if you don't tell them what works best?

In other words, Terrance, the goal is a design as described above and the solution can't be change the design, but has to be: attain the design without a table.

My apologies, I never realised the visual design was non-negotiable.

The point of both of these statements was to try and keep the thread on topic i.e; a solution to a specific, clearly defined problem in which the only choice is to realize it as stated, preferrably without a table.

It obviously didn't work.

I had hoped those of you making assumptions about the "side bits", would leave aside your assumptions and take up the challenge on the actual problem.

I didn't want to write "War and Peace" to explain that I have indeed tried to sway the client, have used intelligent arguments, etc., etc. ad nauseum to keep this thread from getting lost in those arguments, but maybe I should have.

An example of the assumptions: you (or someone) said a design of this "1998" type should never have been presented to the client. Where in anything I said did I say I presented the design? Maybe the client came to me with his design and for the purpose of my original question, what does it really matter?

how can they make effective design decisions, if you don't tell them what works best?

Why do you assume I didn't? Its this type of flawed assumptions that has caused this thread to wander all over the landscape without arriving at a solution to the problem at hand.

Plus I don't want to get into the quirks of clients in this thread,
Sure... clients who needs them?

A clear statement of my intent and your snide comment which shows you didn't get it.
Do you think you are being helpful? Believe me, you're not.

bob






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