Stephen Stagg wrote:
On 15 Feb 2006, at 12:28, Lachlan Hunt wrote:

What I really don't understand is that there are so many people who participate in this and various other mailing lists, newsgroups and forums that actively advise against using popups and explain why they hate them, yet you still somehow believe that users are ok with them. Newsflash: we are users too! Listen to us when we tell you outright that *we hate popup windows!* Do not use them, find a better solution.


For that matter, I am a user too and I like popups when used properly. Perhaps your aggressive responses tend to be a bit pony-ish?
You can never please everyone, the example you gave of

http://juicystudio.com/article/form-help-without-popups.html

is not something I prefer over a well implemented popup and therefore, for this issue, using these inline-hidden-help-comments are annoying me, and people like me.

For what reason are they annoying? You can't just say something is annoying because you think something else is better, you have explain what it is about it that is annoying, and perhaps the issue could be addressed to improve the method without resorting to popups.

If you don't like having to move your mouse up to the toolbar of your window when closing them, learn your OSs key combination for closing the active window. (Windows: Alt-F4, Mac OSx Cmd-W) This way, you can improve your productivity.

I know the key combination, but then I'd have to move my hand to the keyboard which takes just as long. While browsing I use the mouse far more often than the keyboard since a) most of the time, I'm not typing anything, and b) my mouse has every major browsing function built in (back/forward, clicking links (obviously), scrolling, selecting text, etc.).

I don't have a >100Mbit connection so I like it when a site opens an external link in a new window,

Then you have every right to request your browser to do so for you. What reason does the author have to believe that all users feel that way about the situation, when they clearly don't?

Every time I click a link, I make that decision for myself. It's not that hard. If I want the same window, I'll left click and if I want a new tab (or window, if you prefer), I'll middle click. You and every other user can perform exactly the same function with your browser (using whatever mouse/keyboard command it's configured with), the author should not interfere with the user's decision.

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Lachlan Hunt
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