All Rounders are good, im one myself aswell, but dont expect to jump in and become good at everything, thats what im saying. And also, being an All Rounder is not a good thing sometime's, the main reason being that jobs wont be completed as quick as a team of developers could do it, ive lost a few clients due to this. I found it better for myself (lower stress levels ect.) to get a job in one area, and in spare time, or personal jobs do/learn the rest of it. Im currently a front-end developer, but it helps me alot to know back-end.
Money wise, if you work for a company an all rounder wont be on that much pay extra, and usually the stress load is alot higher. Ive seen jobs for back-end developers at 22k a year, and jobs for front-end (HTML/CSS/JS only) for 28k a year. (UK Pounds). But even so, over the years, you will pick up all these languages if your intrests are strong in web development, and you will become an all rounder naturally. :P On 7/12/07, Joseph Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are interested in being and "all-rounder", don't let anyone scare you away from it. I'm an "all-rounder" (designer/developer I would call it), a one-man company. On my sites I do all the planning, information layout, designing and coding - everything. (X)HTML, CSS, javascript, PHP, MySQL on every site and before that ASP and MSSQL (until 2006). The design process starts with pencil and paper. After bot 3-4 sheets of scribbles and squares zooming to and fro all over the paper, I have a worthy layout done. Then a wireframe is made in photoshop. Then the design is made. Then it gets chopped and pages marked up. Then the database gets built. Then the PHP is coded to stitch the front and back together. If time is left over some javascript is sprinkled in to taste. I hope that each site combines all the elements a little more smoothly than last time creating a continued progression as I go. As long as you have an endless appetite for learning more and more all over the board, before you know it you'll be pretty far along with your knowledge. Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breton Slivka wrote: > > > On 7/12/07, *Hassan Schroeder* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > , you are wrong about graphic design. > > ..but seriously, I have *never* seen an ad for a "Graphic Designer" > (or worse, mislabeled "Web Designer") that looked for anything but > Photoshop/Illustrator, possibly Flash, proficiency. Nothing about > BA/IA/UX/ID. Zip. Zed. > > For the vast majority of such positions, it's all about "purty". :-) > > Seriously. I do know exceptions -- Darrell Sano, who I worked with > at Sun, comes to mind -- but they're few and far between. Far too far. > > > > That is an error in the Ads you've seen, and in the Advertiser's > understanding of Graphic Design being just as flawed as yours. This is > not an error in my definition of Graphic Design. I will not dispute > that many self proclaimed "Graphic Designers" hold the same flawed > view. This is a serious problem, which may be too big for me to > singlehandedly handle, but a problem nonethless. To give an analogy, > one could easily advertise for an accountant who is proficient in the > use of Quicken and TurboTax. However this would be a flawed > advertisement, as proficiency in those programs does not a qualified > accountant make. Nor does proficiency in photoshop make a qualified > Graphic Designer, nor would proficiency in Dreamweaver make a > qualified Web Developer, nor Proficiency in MySQL a qualified Database > Designer. > > Indeed, a common view of Surgeons may be that all they do is cut > people up and shift things around, discounting any knowledge they may > have of human anatomy, or medical science. Now imagine if there were a > bunch of surgeons running around getting hired who had the same flawed > perspective. It would be very difficult for a proper surgeon to gain > any sense of credibility wouldn't it? That problem is real in both Web > Development, and Graphic Design. Given that it's something both fields > have in common, I would expect us to be able to team up to fight such > perceptions, but sadly this is not the case for practitioners in > either profession, as they each suffer from the misperceptions of the > other. > > It makes me sad. > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
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