Thierry Koblentz wrote: >>> Because >>> like I said, following this logic why not using table markup to give >> users >>> of other UAs (old visual browsers like IE 5 Mac, NN6, etc) a better >>> experience too? Why just SR users? >> because thats a different issue. Its an issue of the user not upgrading >> to software thats available and thats better. The issue we speak of is >> the user unable to do anything about the situation themselves because >> there is no better software, so we should look after them if we can. > > User not upgrading to software that's available and that's better. Do you > think it's that simple?
no i don't > Believe me, many people do not have that choice. I know. But someone does. If i own a business and make my staff use IE6 then thats my choice because theres something better out there - my staff can't do anything about it but i can. Which is different to screen reader users who have up to date software that lacks some features. They have no choice to upgrade. Therefore they are a different group to the users of the other UA's you mention. Therefore, it doesn't follow that it's using the same logic if we use tables like you suggest. Although i applaud your commitment, I feel your approach is very academic in nature. As someone who mostly earns their living by producing websites for businesses, I feel that it's my job to do whatever delivers the best user experience for the people who are the end users of the site. And, although I firmly believe in adhering to standards (why would I be here otherwise?), if that means using heading and paragraph tags instead of dl's then so be it. And I don't think it's right to use these client websites as a means to make a stand against user agent vendors if it means sacrificing any of that usability. -- Chris Knowles ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************