----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <re...@splintered.co.uk>
To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites


Can I just turn this around? To those on this discussion so adamant that popping up a new window is a good thing...explain WHY! Is it the age-old "but if I link out of my site, users won't know how to get back to my site...I don't want to lose visitors" stance?

P
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Patrick H. Lauke

Patrick:

I don't say having windows all over the place is something great per se, but I do say that for most applications on a PC it is a <em>very</em> tidy and very convenient way of handling masses of data which is related (like my analogy of a web page in Dreamweaver or similar - I have my markup in one window, my CSS in another, my file list in another frame and my output in a browser etc etc etc.) Similarly, with mail, I sometimes want to compare different mails so I need two (or more)open in their own windows, whilst my 'list' of mails is displayed in another frame as indeed are my contacts. And so it goes on. So, to move to your specific point, it is needed sometimes to have a separate window - as a pdf, for example. In these cases, the less PC literate amongst us (who outnumber the literate by a great deal) have to be catered for - I do this by making sure that if a new window is needed, they know this because it tells them before they click.

We on this list are all clever little boys and girls who know about right-clicking to select a new window or not, and indeed we probably all use tabs anyway. I repeat that most people don't know any of this. Most people don't even know what a back button is! Someone recently asked me a question as they were having a problem. As I wasn't in front of her screen I asked her what her browser was. I had an awful job getting her to understand what I was asking, but eventually she explained : "I use my e". This was subsequently clarified by the explanation that she meant the small blue thing at the bottom of the screen. Let me add that this lady sits in front of her PC, at work, using the internet 5 days a week, all day, and has done for 10 years that I know of. Do you think she knows about the back-button? right-click? tabs?

Come on!!!  :-)

Bob


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