The CQ/QRZ logic doesn't allow for sitting on your grid report with somebody 
and they eventually come back to you.
I see this as a state transition problem and almost implemented it that way.
GRID->RPT->ACK
The GRID state is nowhere near 100% accurate as either side could be sitting on 
CQ obviously or their grid report with somebody trying to break into a pileup 
for example.The RPT is almost 100% guaranteed you are in a QSO now and that's 
why I used Tx 2/3.  The ACK has so many inventive variations as to be useless 
but seems like the GRID report is pretty much universally going through the Tx 
2/3.  The logic does allow for somebody sending free text all over the place 
and just uses the Log time as the start time if you do really non-standard 
things.
Did anybody send any real examples of where it's wrong?
de Mike W9MDB
      From: Bill Somerville <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: QSO start and end times
   
 On 07/02/2017 04:10, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
  
 "I don't see why it should not be that the start time is when the DX call 
 box gets changed and the end time is when the QSO is logged." 
   I frequently double click a call of interest so I can track the station in 
the Rx frequency pane.   It could  be hours before I make the first 
transmission in an attempt to start the contact and that transmission may get 
no response.    The fact that the call is in The "DX call"  box is no 
indication at all that I have started a QSO. 
 HI Andy, I understand what you are saying but another could argue that they 
set up  call by selecting Tx1 or Tx2 but don't actually enable Tx until much 
later. It is quite hard to nail down the actual start of QSO without a "Start 
QSO" button. Maybe something like: The time of the first transmission of a 
standard message that is not CQ or QRZ for a new DX call. DX call here being 
defined as the base call to allow for the discovery of a compound call part way 
through a QSO. 73
 Bill
 G4WJS.
  
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