[Prelim: I'm posting this on the Developers reflector instead of the wider WSJT group since I find this group has a better SNR. If you feel it needs the wider distribution of the latter net, please let me know - John/KE7B]
This past weekend, I attended the Pacific NW DX Convention, where the buzz of JT/FT was tangible. Mind you, while these folks are very accomplished hams, as a more "experienced" WSJT operator, I often felt I was visiting Jurassic Park. When I mentioned I had worked 240/confirmed 236 on JT65/JT9/FT8, I was given some creds (most had never tried these modes and believed our community was tiny and incapable of serious DX work). The biggest news for me was the talk about the upcoming DXpedition to Mellish Reef (VK9MA) and the stated intention to try JT65 and/or FT8 on one of the 5 positions. Of course, RATE is always the #1 issue with DXpeditioners and Contesters. I believe this may be the first great opportunity for WSJT to succeed for a major DXpedition. I spent some time talking with the team leader and others about expectations. Not surprisingly, we cannot expect the team to run QSOs conventionally. Below is the summary of their thoughts. Again, we can't insist that they run their Q-exchanges conventionally as WSJT is designed, but they are open to some moderated feedback. I promised I would provide their input to the Developers and get them a summarized response. SUMMARY BEGINS (Notes from team to me) Rate is the number #1 concern as well as a few other issues. A WSJT exchange from an expedition perspective is a fast exchange which hams are typically familiar with, such as CW and or RTTY modes. Current expedition exchange(s) using CW and/or RTTY normally look like the following: VK9MA: CQ CQ VK9MA {optional UP | DN } KE7B replying to VK9MA replies: KE7B VK9MA sends: KE7B 599 KE7B replies: 599 TU at this point the QSO is concluded if VK9MA replies with: TU QRZ VK9MA UP OR continues a bit longer if VK9MA retries/replies with: KE7B 599 if VK9MA didn't receive KE7B initial reply at which point KE7B replies with: 599 TU and VK9MA sends: TU QRZ VK9MA UP JT65/JT9 or FT8 throws us a different curve ball in that: 1. An FT8 exchange is automated with built in retries. therefore the exchange is either successful or not. Therefore we (VK9MA) don't have to worry about retries, as the exchange will either be successful or not. 2. JT65/JT9 exchanges can be orchestrated because users have time to change the exchange. 3. The users of WSJT application are trained to click on the CQ calling station. Therefore only the really advanced users know/understand the concept of calling UP/or DOWN in frequency. Therefore we can expect almost all stations respond to the VK9MA CQ by clicking on the VK9MA CQ in the application and effectively responding by TX on the VK9MA calling frequency. 4. WSJT application normally has KE7B initially respond to the exchange with Grid Square which the DX station doesn't care about. Therefore if I would like JT65/JT9/FT8 to follow the normal CW/RTTY expedition exchange 1. An Ideal exchange should follow as close to the following as possible. VK9MA initially sends: "CQ VK9MA XX87" , note without the UP/DWN KE7B replies anywhere in the 1-4KHz window: "VK9MA KE7B -01" VK9MA responds: "KE7B VK9MA R-01" At this point the exchange is complete. If KE7B didn't get the VK9MA response, then he can then call again with KE7B -01...and VK9MA can repeat "KE7B R-01". This can be integrated/automated into the WSJT FT8 application. VK9MA sends: "TU QRZ VK9MA" Using this approach will be super efficient and make FT8 the GO TO digital mode 2. Using JT65 or JT9 the exchange should be the same, other than the users will have to manually select the exchange using the "Next" buttons which might be a challenge to most users. END SUMMARY OK, folks. This is the Mellish Reef team's intent for 90 days hence. It's now your opportunity to tell them what they can reasonably expect, what they should and should not try, or perhaps consider for future WSJT HF enhancement. How Mellish goes may be groundbreaking, since propagation will be poor, and it is a golden opportunity for WSJT to shine on a DXer/Contester stage as well as for the newly licensed. I welcome your feedback. I'll assemble and relay your voices to the VK9MA team. 73 John KE7B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel