Iztok Saje for President! :D
Well done Iztok!
All problems solved.
Each IARU official is to resign at once!
gl de ha6nn
Andras

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Iztok Saje <iztok.s...@telekom.si> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Summary: Do not over regulate HAM bands!
> Please emphasize in doccumantation:
> "FT8 frequencies are recommendation, not Law".
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> Few different ideas for "FT8 frequencies" discussion.
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> 1. Fresh from CQ WPX SSB.
>
> On 80 m, somebody kept telling people calling CQ below 3700:
> "This frequency is not for contest, please QSY, read IARU bla bla ...".
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> On the other hand: on 160 m, there was no FT8 for 48 hours.
> And some CW was lost in first few kHz (QRMed by non-HAM QRM anyhow).
> Whole first 100 kHz was SSB.
> 5 minutes after contest, FT8 activity is restarted.
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> It was similar with RTTY contests: FT8 traffic declined and moved to 7 MHz
> (where FT8 is in the "SSB" part) and WARC.
>
> The other day somenone on 40m kept sending beacon (FT8 beacon) saying
> "This is JT65, not FT8"
> AT the same time, no JT65 signals was heard, and FT8 was crowded.
>
> 2. Shared space
> is nice approach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space ,
> reinvented by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Monderman .
> (I recall traffic in Kairo: I would not dare to drive, but everything run
> smoothly).
> Concept is simple: by over regulation (Traffic signs, lights, zebras ...)
> drivers rely on signs,
> ignore other drivers and several crashes are due to "It is my right to be
> there").
> By removing signs, drivers start to observe and respect others. Less
> accidents, higher throughput.
>
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> 3. HAM bands are shared space from day 1
>
> I see HAM bands as shared space. Yes, I did CW QSOs on "SSB" part. Yes, I
> used FT8 outside preferred FT8 2 kHz.
> Yes, I was using RTTY on JT65 subband.
> Yes, I do QSY if there is major contest going on.
>
>
> Any FT8/JT65/JT9/PSK/name_it allocation is just recommendation.
> It is frequency where it is most likely to find some activity.
> No more, no less. And it should be like this.
> All digital modes equal.
>
> 4. HAM spirit
> With respect to others, it is easy to find place for everyone.
> More FT8: FT8 expands. More RTTY: FT8 shrinks.
> Less PSK: sorry, it is not fair to keep 2 kHz empty while FT8 is suffering.
>
> I recall when first 10 kHz on 7 MHz was DX reserved. There is good reason
> why it is no more.
>
> Of course, we have different people on the bands: whatever I do, somebody
> does not like.
> But those people will always find something to dislike and some mission on
> the bands.
>
> 5. current practice
> Yes, we tend to go up. My RX bandwidth is 3.4 kHz. And TX as well.
> If needed, go up. If nobody answers CQ, go down. If JT65 is heard, avoid
> it.
>
> Best point for DX-peditions is just above: they transmit on 3 kHz, thus
> anyone can see
> they are QRV and move to work fox. But hunds are outside normal FT8 QRG.
>
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> 6. Maybe SPLIT is needed?
>
> I recall 2017 JT65 madness on 6m: EU/JA and EU/W agreed on even/odd
> periods.
> Waiting for FT8 this year.
>
> Also, it is much easier to work JA on 160m compared to 80m (or 40m) from
> Europe.
> reason: JA is transmitting 1908, we are on 1840. So, if I want that HA6
> station from rare UL square, I do simplex,
> if I want JA DX, I listen 908.
>
> Maybe a recommendation to use similar approach can return "weak signal" to
> FT8 DXing?
> EU/NA/AS-OC/rare DX subbands.
>
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> Best 73, gd FT8 DX
> Iztok, S52D
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> Pravni pogoji / Legal disclaimer
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