You seem intent on proving there is something wrong with vista or wsjt-x.
Do you use any other digital mode programs for say psk31 or SSTV ?.
I would maybe suggest using one of those and see if they lock up when you tune.

I fail to see why you are looking at your operating system or the software for 
the issue when the majority who have already suffered the same issue have 
accepted that it is stray RF to blame, but you are totally unwilling to even 
test.

Your windows is locking because the drivers are old and your OS does most 
likely does not like the USB to get interrupted if you stop the initial 
disconnect caused by the stray RF then your PC will not lock up.

You have 2 options upgrade to a new OS or spend $5 on a decent USB cable.

      I will not bother you again as you do not read anything that does not fit 
your belief that there is an issue with software that thousands of people are 
using currently using and most have cured the issue by stopping the RFI.

      Richard g7oed



From: John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 5:18 AM
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Bug Report: Version 1.9.1

Are you running Vista-64?

There are vast differences in these operating systems.

This thread reminds me of the saying when someone only has a hammer in their 
toolbox.

Again, the OP should be read, understood, and answered.

I think some here think software is perfect; and all platforms produce 
identical results.

I've posted a bug; plain and simple.



On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:19 PM Neil Zampella <ne...@techie.com> wrote:

  Can you prove that its not RF in the shack?   If you can verify that RF is 
not causing it then its a bug, otherwise, there is no issues with the software 
in your case.

  Neil, KN3ILZ




  On 6/6/2018 5:27 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote:

    OK, so we're 100% clear - and I want this bug report to be that:

    RF is causing the WSJT-X thread to hang in such a way it cannot be killed 
on my Vista-64 machine?

    Is that the claim?

    73's,
    John
    AJ6BC


    On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

      Nobody is claiming hamlib is bug-free.  But the problem you are reporting 
has occurred to LOTS of people and the problem is almost always the same...RF 
in the shack and on the lines.

      You'll find your problem is band-specific.  Transmitting 0W never fails.  
Transmitting into a dummy load never fails.  All of that will prove it is RF.

      As Jim said, grounding can be an issue too.  Many ops have improper 
grounding (namely a rod stuck in the ground outside their shack which is not 
bonded to the house ground).

      de Mike W9MDB





      On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 3:53:11 PM CDT, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. 
<j...@westmorelandengineering.com> wrote:


      Jim,

      OK - so the claim I'm reading here is Hamlib is 1000% bug-free regarding 
Vista-64?  I'm very skeptical about that; the most obvious issue and nothing 
mentioned thus
      far obviates this.

      I'm looking into the obvious first.  If my rig was so poorly configured; 
how in the world did I make a contact with Argentina?

      And, I've made a lot of other contacts.  Including Virginia, North 
Carolina, New York, and North Dakota not to mention Japan.  And Arizona, and 
California, and
      Oregon, and Washington...

      Since the thread running WSJT-X can't be killed; I'm looking into that 
first; and the cause of that.

      The next obvious step for me is to make builds myself and look into the 
source code.

      73's,
      John
      AJ6BC


      On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Jim Brown <k...@audiosystemsgroup.com> 
wrote:

        On 6/6/2018 12:36 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote:

          That's an interesting hypothesis.  Since USB is differential 
signaling - it has some noise immunity; but I will definitely check into this.


        Hum/buzz gets into our systems as a result of failure to implement 
proper bonding between interconnected equipment, combined with improper 
termination of shields within equipment by their designers. Study my tutorial 
on this, which goes through both circuit analysis of the problem and details 
good engineering practice.

        http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAu dio.pdf

        Or study N0AX's new ARRL book on the topic, which was inspired by my 
tutorial, and to which I made many contributions.

        73, Jim K9YC


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