Dear Take


Thank you for bringing to attention the ARRL Letter from September.
Unfortunately they have not fully represented the facts in this case.



For clarity here is what is happening currently within IARU:



1)      There is a multi-regional committee in place with representatives
from Region 1 (Tom DL5FL), Region 2 (Al VO1NO) and Region 3 (myself Grant
VK5GR) as well as representatives from the IARU executive that has been
tasked with reviewing data mode segment harmonisation within the HF band
plans. The committee is still in the relatively early stages of this work
and  is still seeking and analysing feedback on various pain points and
preliminary suggestions.



The principle goals of the tri-region working group are to:



a.       Enhance harmonisation of the amateur HF digital sub-bands across
the world generally



b.      Achieve an agreed set of improved mechanisms for describing band
usage that cope with the technology changes that have arisen since they were
first laid down over a decade ago.



c.       Achieve common centres of activity for conversational; modes (PSK,
RTTY and all other digital modes which are operated on a manned basis), tine
synchronised modes (such as WSJT which has a particular channel access
mechanism that is unfriendly to most other modes) and unattended modes (like
Winlink).



d.      Allocate suitable amounts of spectrum to enable the newer data modes
that have very high concentrations of activity to be expanded - hence
reducing congestion within those modes (particularly looking at considered
expansion of the FT8 segment as well as other unattended modes).



e.      And a new area of study that has emerged from early consultations is
how to separate out emergency data communications from general traffic on
the bands (including contesting activity which has a large impact on
unattended traffic, particularly in the US where amateurs are restricted
under Part 97.221 of the FCC rules).



2)      The report by ARRL suggesting Region 3 is proposing this is not
strictly correct - as the release of the very first draft of proposals and
concepts for discussion was actually released to all regions simultaneously
from the data mode segment harmonisation committee. However it is true that
IARU R3 was the first region to have it presented to their regional
conference, more be a quirk of timing than anything else. It is not correct
that the proposal is coming from region 3.



3)      The IARU committee members have met so far with numerous
representatives of major digital modes communities around the globe. Some of
these groups include the WSJT development team, the ARRL, through the Region
1 committee member it has been presented to the region 1 members, it has
been circulated to the region 2 societies for feedback and it has also been
circulated to region 3 (although so far a poor level of engagement has
resulted out of region 3 which is proving difficult to overcome). We have
also met with various representatives and proponents of the Winlink
community and have plans to discuss the proposals and ideas more widely as
we progress into 2022.



That is not a small agenda - and unfortunately is taking a lot longer than
we had hoped to land consensus around the IARU member societies.



With regards to 40m, this is a band with significant regulatory challenges
across the regions. Specifically:



・         The US FCC rules that prevent SSB voice being used below 7125kHz
have distorted the use of the band compared to general practice in the rest
of the world. The US band plan usage of 7074-7080 for WSJT modes was
originally at odds with the rest of the world which, until WSJT modes
appeared, had been mostly using the segment for SSB activity. The nature of
WSJT and FT8 in particular, however, has meant that what started as a US
centric allocation has now morphed into a global centre of activity. The FCC
Part 97.221 rules add a further US centric constraint, with its allocation
of 7100-7105KHz to automatic unattended stations - well into the SSB segment
of the band as used in the rest of the world.



・         The Japanese administration’s regulations preventing inter-JA
domestic data mode communications above 7045kHz has also created a clash
between the long established PSK use segment that was between 7040-7044kHz
in Region 1 and parts of Region 3. JA amateurs have in the last 2 years
started using 7041kHz for domestic FT8 activity, again impacting PSK and
other similar conversational data modes that had long been established in
that segment (noting again the US/Region 2 exception where that activity was
occurring on 7070-7074kHz).



・         The 40m band is also variable in size. While most if not all of
Region 2 have access to 7000-7300kHz, Region 1 and Region 3 (with some
exceptions) is limited to 7000-7200kHz. This creates a substantial conflict
between US centric use of data modes above 7080 vs the SSB community in the
rest of the world today.



・         Some national regulators in Region 2 and 3 have actually linked
their national radio regulations to the IARU amateur band plans. This has
further impediments and limitations on what can be done quickly.



In short - these challenges present significant headwinds to harmonisation
of the data segment in the 40m band.

It is also worth noting that, to address one small part of the review,
enquiries were raised to JARL in the first instance to ask what scope there
might be for relocating the JA domestic (intra-Japan)  FT8 activity into the
JA only part of the data sub band (which in JA is allocated 7030-7045kHz as
far as we understand). We are still trying to obtain a response from JARL on
this suggestion.  Note: no actual changes have been agreed as yet (contrary
to what I have been told has been reported in Japan).



So, the official position currently is that the formal discussion paper has
been circulated to IARU member societies for discussion. That is where the
project is up to. It is worth noting that In the paper are initial draft
proposals for reorganisation of the data sub-bands. They are intended purely
as a starting point for discussions, however.



If amateurs wish to provide feedback, the correct route for feedback via the
regional IARU societies. Feedback is welcome at this stage. We don’t have
all the answers and may not yet have fully understood all of the problems.
Now is your chance to provide feedback.  I am also happy to also engage in
further discussion, however as this is far more than a WSJT development it
probably is best conducted outside this mailing list.



Regards,

Grant Willis VK5GR

IARU Region 3 HF Band Plan committee chairman

and R3 representative on the IARU data modes harmonisation committee

Email: vk5gr.ra...@gmail.com





From: Tsutsumi Takehiko via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.
net]
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 2:15 PM
To: WSJT software development
Cc: Tsutsumi Takehiko
Subject: [wsjt-devel] 40m IARU Proposal for Narrowband Data



Hi,



ARRL Letter on 09/23/2021 titled “IARU Regio 3 Considers Significant
Expansion of HF Digital Segments” triggered the dialog among JA WSJT users
about the recent activities of IARU bandplan proposal. It is the great
movement establishing “time-synchronized transmission mode capacity
demands” and we must encourage globally harmonized bandplan implementation
as soon as possible. However, I noticed a  concern on 40m  proposal by the
reason that I have experienced a lots of QRM from lengthy, high powered and
wide band occupied adjacent  SSB operation on 40m at QRG 7074 FT-8 activity
and it is not the best allocation for all narrow band data users as FT-8 is
the most favorite and popular format today.  From this aspect, I prefer FT-8
to take the most protected segment from SSB operation swapping the
allocation of Time Sync Data to 7040~7055kHz, for example 7040kHz. This
principle to allocate lower side to “Time Synch Data” is proposed on 80m.
I understand the allocation rule to prioritize the current allocation
explained in the letter saying “ a global narrowband conversational modes
(e.g., PSK) segment between 7040 and 7044 kHz in alignment with existing
Region 1 arrangements” but that is not future looking and does not convince
for me.



Thus, I wish to hear from the audience of this forum whether it is painful
enough for us to move WSJT i.e. FT-8  segment to 7040~7055kHz and I must
refrain from proposing to IARU R3 at this moment.



Any comments (from Region 1 especially) ?



Regards,



take



de JA5AEA



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